Jest Out of Jurisdiction
Law Enforcement / First Responder stories and experiences with a focus on comedic blunders, events, and the lighter side of stressful jobs. Stories are firsthand accounts told by the hosts Flash and T-Dot with accompanying guest interviews.
Jest Out of Jurisdiction
Hide and seek, Cheeto Dust, and Boobie Traps.
As the episode rolls on, we reflect on the evolution of policing and the brotherhood it fosters, while never missing a beat on the humor front. From the bizarre to the downright comical, we cover it all: car break-ins, mannequin-induced jump scares, and even a debate over an Instapot that went hilariously off the rails. This episode promises a hearty laugh and a heartfelt nod to the camaraderie and chaos that make life in law enforcement unlike any other.
Blue lights from the dead of the night, lying low to run a dim street light Laughing through the written reports. Truth stranger than the wildest courts. Tales from the force gone astray Caught up in the games they play. High speed chases gone awry. Serious turns into pie in the sky, just out of jurisdiction, left during the conviction.
Speaker 2:So Darryl's in, it was on one side, I'm in the middle, like it was like a three rotation, and then the bathroom was down on the far. It was like the back gate. Where the general came in the secure of Europe there, so he always came in the back gate. Where the general came in the SACU of Europe there, so he always came in the back gate. I'm sitting on the middle and it's like a guard shack with sandbags, man, they was ready for the Belgians to attack, I don't know, the Poxiclip, yeah, and it was an hour rotation from there to there. Well, I'd been sitting there for quite a while. So Darrell was coming up. And here's what happens Dang, sergeant, major and the general from Kentucky National Guard, they come over.
Speaker 2:So I'm popped, I stand two. Okay, sir, you know, they must have did well, challenged them or something. They gave me a coin and everything. I was like, yeah, I sat back down and said I've got to pee. Well, that delayed everything. And here comes Darrell comes up finally, because they left. And then the rotation just went like this. So I'm like I'm sitting there, I was like I've got to go Darrell. Well, I stood up, man, and I was like I got to go. Darrell. I stood up, man. I was like I ain't going to make it down there. I cut open a sandbag and just peed it. Darrell's like what have you done? When Darrell's in, it's like what are you doing?
Speaker 3:I'm laying in the floor peeing in the sandbag.
Speaker 2:I'm just laying there peeing in the sandbag, here comes he's like what are you doing? I was like. And then I get this weird bladder like spasm and I'm rolling. I start rolling around in the floor trying to get relief. He's like. He's like I've been there, but it's usually from the other way. So after that I can't hold my pee. I'm like I gotta go there's something wrong. I think I tore my bladder. You tore it open oh jeez.
Speaker 2:So that's how every podcast has got some kind of pee story. I'm sure yeah, he recorded that you're absolutely right. I should know him better.
Speaker 3:Well, that might be your niche.
Speaker 5:We're known for peeing on ourselves. We're getting sponsored by Depends, I hope so. I'll wear them If you're listed.
Speaker 3:Depends there's probably people out there going. You guys heard that pee podcast.
Speaker 2:That's what, that's what the every show hey, gosh all right, you guys ready?
Speaker 5:yeah, all right, welcome back. We've got another episode for you guys. We've got richie reynolds here with us. We go way back. Richie's got military experience, lots and lots of police experience. We call the Navy.
Speaker 2:I'll leave that between you guys, here we go. We got a.
Speaker 5:Marine and a Navy guy in here, so let that banter begin. No, it's fun, but we've got a lot of good stories for you with this guy. I got a lot of love for him. But we've got a lot of good stories for you with this guy. I've got a lot of love for him. Richie was actually the very first poor guy, the very first field training officer I had, so I'm sure he's got a lot to say about that. And the call sign flash.
Speaker 3:He's a lot of reason for that too. So your audience is aware of the call sign. Yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you've got some which call sign. Should we give Bitchy Richie?
Speaker 3:Or which one's the most Stallard. I hate that guy. Actually I love him.
Speaker 2:He was. I don't know how many Rich, I guess that was.
Speaker 5:I don't know, we never really. Uh, he somehow didn't have one. He had all he had.
Speaker 2:He had a bunch of names, but all right, so my call sign the dot came out. Well, of course richie makes it the longest thing you could hear. He just called me the short nickname. It was what t?
Speaker 3:Tennessee Department of Transportation, so they would call me that.
Speaker 2:One of the funniest things I ever. Ever we was working on a case or something, richie knocks out this big, long case I mean it was a three, four pager and he turns it in to, I guess, Stuart Walker and I'm pretty sure Stuart was lieutenant at the time, he was yeah, so he would read our case jackets, like I mean like a novel. He'd put the readers on and just I mean like proofread that thing good. So he's like, oh no. I remember Richie just smacks the top of his head. He's like, oh no, he's going to read that. I said why. And then all of a sudden, what?
Speaker 3:Travis, is your middle name G? No, it was Quincy. Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 2:Quincy Is your middle name Quincy. I was like huh At Richie's.
Speaker 3:I was like oh, no, yeah, I put Travis Q Dotson. It sounds like I had an.
Speaker 2:Esquire at one point Is your middle name Quincy? I was like no, I was like well, I'm busted.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean it was funny. It was one of those reports that wasn't going anywhere, you know that most people don't even read.
Speaker 5:But he read it thoroughly.
Speaker 2:It was funny.
Speaker 5:Now, richie was a prime example of not taking things too seriously, but when things got serious, he was good to have there because he was a wealth of knowledge and, as much as we joked around and cut up and made fun of the job, I learned a lot from him and I'm glad that he was one of my first officers to train me, even though he did give me the hardest time probably.
Speaker 3:Flattery will get you everywhere.
Speaker 2:I met Richie on a call when he was at the sheriff's office and I wasn't policing yet, I just had got home from the guard or something. I hadn't went to the academy and I think he was working a theft report, him and Chig or somebody out at my mom and dad's. I don't think they ever got that report.
Speaker 3:Well, if you didn't do it, chig if Chig was doing it.
Speaker 2:You probably didn't get it. So I don't know. So how many years in law enforcement?
Speaker 3:um, I guess 24, 25 ish somewhere around in there now how many years?
Speaker 2:let's see navy.
Speaker 3:You did four years and three there and then three in the national guard.
Speaker 2:Okay, we get about the same time and in the service together I did four Marines and two in the Guard, and so our I'm at 23, 22 years in law enforcement. So we we're getting old.
Speaker 3:That's the problem because I'm too stupid, that's why, we're doing this podcast now before you guys get Alzheimer's that's the only thing I know how to do, and I'm not even good at it.
Speaker 2:I know, I know I'm not either.
Speaker 5:Well, when you get out of law enforcement, you quickly realize you're overqualified for most things, but you're not qualified for anything.
Speaker 4:Amen.
Speaker 2:So where did you start your policing career?
Speaker 3:Probably. Corbin PD was probably the first real police experience I ever had and I'll never forget. I came out of the academy I was ramrod straight you know gun hole, ready to saw all of society's ills take care of everything. I hadn't been on at the time. Corbin PD was very short-handed, so we didn't get much in way of field training. They were just like you've been to the academy. Here's your keys to your car, godspeed go, you know go.
Speaker 3:So, me and this other guy I'll leave his name out of it, but y'all know him um, we were, we were working, so we were, you know, out stopping cars, doing rookie stuff, you know doing what rookies do. Well, I had to stop and I had to go the bp station. So I go to the bp station and you know it's midnight, one o'clock, and corbin, you know nothing going on. You know five, five cars up, moving at tops. Well, I go in there and I'm standing behind this guy in a long trench coat, you know, and then there's a guy, there's a customer in front of him so so I think I've told you all the story.
Speaker 3:Yes, so I don't know, I'm probably I'm getting old well, um well, this person pays and leaves.
Speaker 3:Well, the guy in the long trench coat steps up and I noticed the clerk, the, the attendant back there. It's a female and she's probably younger than me and I'm in my 20s at this time, so, you know, and I noticed she looks. She's like he leans around, looks at me and her eyes are bigger in quarters and I'm like what is this woman staring at me? She never seen a cop before. Does she not know I'm a cop, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3:I know I look good, or whatever you know no, but I could tell I'm joking about that, but I could tell she's got some kind of terror in her, you know, and I but I'm rookie, so I'm not the most sharpest tool in the shed at this at this time. So I'm like, well, that's weird. And then I noticed she just keeps staring at me. And then I hear the guy mumble something to her and she, she looks at me again. She just does like a double take at me, like trying to nod her head. So I'm like what is going on here? So I just kind of walk up around the side and I notice this guy standing there with a gun drawn, pointed at him. So I'm like, oh my god, so I don't know. So I, you know, like I said, I have had very little training at this point.
Speaker 3:So I'm like Barney Fife. I'm jumping up and down, I'm trying to find my bullet in my pocket. I'm like what?
Speaker 4:do, I do, you know I pull my gun out put it back up, pull my gun out.
Speaker 3:Then I'm like freeze. And then I grab a hold of the guy and the gun goes to the ground. Thank God, cause I was like, oh my gosh, probably both. So, cause I was thinking the only thing I could think to myself is I got a week on. I cannot shoot somebody already. This is gonna be crazy. So we're going, we're, we're, I grab a hold of him, the gun falls.
Speaker 3:He looks at me with the the same size eyes that the girl had and I'm sure mine were the same. So he's, he's like oh god, that's a cop. And I'm like, oh god, that's a criminal. So we're cops and robbers. So I'm like this is real life cops, robber. And I think he was thinking the same thing too. So we start tussling around and I mean we're, we're, we're bouncing off of chip racks and stuff like that. Next thing I know I'm covering cheeto dust. So this girl, this girl goes flying out the front door and she's screaming. Well, thank God that the other cop that was working with me was across the street on a traffic stop. So he hears this girl and he sees my car over there. So he comes straight over there and, thank the Lord, you know me and this guy's rolling around in Funyuns and whatnot. So he helps me get this guy up and I was like, oh my God, this can't be happening. So the whole time.
Speaker 3:I was driving to the PD with this guy and I was like are you serious guy, did you really? He's like, I didn't even know you were behind me Should have looked around, though Wait until I left.
Speaker 5:Is this a setup? Am I being punked?
Speaker 3:That's almost what I thought. I was like. This can't be happening. I'm brand new. Oh my gosh, only you, only me. I mean, that's why I have so many stories, because my whole career was either nothing but sheer terror, sheer comedy or sheer aggravation.
Speaker 5:It was always fun to get out with Richie on the call.
Speaker 2:I've never. I always thought it found me. You know, trouble always found me. But you make me, you make my story just like oh my gosh hell in the world If it could have happened.
Speaker 3:it happened on my shift. I'm telling you.
Speaker 2:I never gosh, we we've. We worked a lot of shit, I remember. I remember one time we was up dealing with somebody I supervising and he's like I want your supervisor here. You're like no, you don't. You don't want me to come up here, man, you just better deal with me. Just deal with me man. Yeah, I think it ended well. It was never good to put me and Richie on a shift together, probably. No, no it usually went to.
Speaker 3:Well, you know, I was going to say I was going to tell at least one story with each of you, but I'll say that for later. Oh no, it's not that bad. I picked up some of the more milder ones. But I remember, you know, like like those days back at corbin when I first started, I couldn't believe that. You know that the way some of the people were. I went to domestic. Probably my first week or two there. It's somewhere along the lines of the armed robber subject at the BP station.
Speaker 4:Well, I think it was a female that we needed to arrest.
Speaker 3:She was the aggressor there, and, and uh, I just remember thinking to myself and she resisted arrest. And I remember thinking do you know, do you not see? This uniform. This is a badge.
Speaker 2:How dare you, how dare I couldn't, but you know I couldn't believe, really you know the way things really worked. I remember remember that too You're like man, Because we always respected the law as private citizens before we got into it.
Speaker 5:So once you realize not everybody's been raised like, that you're like wow, and that was not a norm with most people.
Speaker 3:Well, 25 years ago or so you know policing was still a fairly honorable profession. It still is today. But you know policing was still a fairly honorable profession. You know it still is today, but you know it's, the views have changed a lot.
Speaker 5:Yeah, social media has kind of curbed the appeal you could demonize every profession you know if you wanted to.
Speaker 2:But it seems like when you have the ability to take somebody's freedom, when you can put somebody in jail, if you can take away their rights a little bit and lodge them somewhere, that tends to get a spotlight on you pretty good.
Speaker 3:Absolutely as well it should. I don't think when you first start you really think about what a great power that actually is to exercise over somebody, be able to take their freedom away from them. But it is a pretty big experience and responsibility, big responsibility.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of times you. That's why you know rookies have to be molded and reined in. You know because you're like man, there's a lot of things that you don't know that could get you in there. You think you know because you're like man there's a lot of a lot of things that you don't know that could get you in there. You think you know the law. You really don't. Richie was a great. He might say he should have went to law schools. Well, you knew the law and I was glad because it was nice having somebody it was.
Speaker 5:It was you could look at richie and be like all right, I know what to do, I just don't know exactly how to do it, and then he'd be okay, I got you they got a new case law but, yeah, better than the people that wrote it, so it was handy.
Speaker 5:He was really good about that or you'd be in a situation where we got to do something with this guy and I can't think of anything, or it's going to be he's going to murder something you know, and then he'd be like, well, you got this Okay.
Speaker 2:Perfect. What else you got? I know you got some good ones. Oh goodness, let's see Sheriff's Office. I'll go ahead. Whatever, whenever's some good ones, there's so many.
Speaker 5:I know Richie was the only person I've ever seen get in a fight. The only thing he injured was his thumb. Amen to that.
Speaker 3:That is true, and it was a long-term injury, you know okay, so I'll talk about that for just a minute. So you know we're responding to this call and people say they hear glass breaking and whatnot at a local business here. So we show up.
Speaker 3:Sure enough, we fan out and end up finding this guy it was roger so, uh, um, we had just changed our taser policy at that time to where they had to be in under active resistance, yeah. So I was like, oh gosh. I was like, come on, let's, let's, let's go to jail. You know know, this guy's been in prison, so he's like, well, I'm not going to jail, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 5:And normally we would have just on site, we would have just hit this guy with a taser and took him to jail.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean like as soon as he said, I'm not going to jail we're like look man, either get in the car well, we're going to go by policy. So I was like so I knew that he would. He would at least jerk away from me or whatever. So so I reach out to grab him and he's fast as lightning. I mean, he, you know, he's a career criminal. He's probably been in five thousand more fights than I have didn't he have military training too?
Speaker 5:yeah, that too because I know, when we fanned out around him, he postured up, put his right foot back.
Speaker 3:I mean, it was yeah he was ready, and then I did the same thing. He's like don't you posture on me or something like that.
Speaker 5:He was squared up where he goes. Yeah, he was ready to go.
Speaker 3:So I reached out to grab him and the first thing he does is do a downward motion with his hand, hits me right in the thumb and I'm like, oh god, it's the cold sweat. I'm seeing stars from a thumb. Yeah, I mean it was. Oh my god, get him, get him, get him. I'll tell them boys to get him. I'm like that sound like over here nursing my hand well, I remember Richie, he was worried.
Speaker 5:It didn't tell us this till later, but his words were alright, pop yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I said pop him, but then he's like oh God, I got new guys. I'm going to shoot him. I'm just glad I didn't hear gunshots. I'm like, well, the sergeant told me to shoot him.
Speaker 2:Shoot him, pop him.
Speaker 5:If I hear pop him.
Speaker 3:I didn't think we'd taste him.
Speaker 2:Did we taste him right in the jaw? That's what I think I'm. First thing I'm gonna pow yeah, punchy, I used to some well, I was, I was known to be in some fisticuffs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, that that leads me into the story with you. No, so, of course. So I mean, there, there's, there's plenty, but I'm this one's kind of benign, so we're we're, we, we're covered up that day and I, so they give us a shoplifter at Walmart, oh yeah, so me and him goes over to Walmart and it's this female and she's from a surrounding county.
Speaker 3:That has a little bit of different opinions on law for the most part. So you know we tell her. You know, honey, you're under arrest. Blah, blah, blah. So you know I reach out to grab her and she pulls away. She says ain't no man ever putting his hands on me again. I said I'm not putting my hands on you. I said I'm just trying to. You know, you got to go with us. Nope, not going. So I'm like, oh my God. So I'm looking at him. I'm like, really, is this happening? So we grab a hold of her. She starts acting, you know, twisting, fighting. So we're we. We ended up out in the vestibule of walmart, but we're we're. You know we're both kind of in shock at this point because she's putting up a.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's fighting and women would women would be the worst to fight, so they will fight you harder than any man ever would well, and and there's no way to win that in the public either you know you you punch a woman in their face, they're like oh my god, you see that.
Speaker 5:What's the cop did? Somebody with their little cell phone going yeah or the opposite. That's the only click that would hit you too or just the opposite they'd be like that cop got whooped all over the place by that.
Speaker 3:That girl, I think she did hit me, she did on the arm. She did so like we're out in the middle, this vestibule, and you know how small town, you know people, everybody's at Walmart.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, so I mean we're just grappling with her and she's wilder than anything. And so Travis reaches back and he's going. He finally pins her on the ground and I happen to turn around, look, and there's 200 people standing behind us watching. I was like no, no, no, let me just tase her so he rolls over and let's go over. I tase her and one gets her right square in a buoy, and the other one right, right and the other one in the elbow so that's not a good spread we got
Speaker 3:her cuffed up okay it locked her up, she you know. So we got compliance over, so next comes the removal of the taser probes, did we call ems?
Speaker 2:yeah, I would have definitely on that? Absolutely, because one of them was stuck right in her boob.
Speaker 3:You know, so, yeah, so I get ems to come and and remove. So they pull what. They pull the one out of her boob, no problem. Well they're, you know they're. We've still got 200 people watching the might, the, the malaise here, yes, so they pull the barb out of her elbow. Well, it must have hit a artery or vein or something cuz cuz. When they pull it out, blood shoots across the floor of Walmart and you can hear there's probably ten old ladies that's been watching this. They're going.
Speaker 4:Oh my god, you can hear there's probably 10 old ladies that's been watching this.
Speaker 3:They're going oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, my God. And you hear her men, oh, my God, you know. So they think we killed this poor woman, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Later on that night we go up to the hospital and they're talking about it up there. Because she didn't go to the hospital, she went straight to jail. And they're like about it up there Because if she didn't go to the hospital she went straight to jail. They just you know, and they're like did you hear about that stabbing up at Walmart? How quickly they.
Speaker 5:yeah, I called Richie.
Speaker 2:I was like man. They think we stabbed that woman. And sure enough this is pre-Facebook. I guess it hadn't really taken off yet, but it was all over Topics, if you remember Topics.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it was that Topics or maybe Twitter, I think Facebook was around.
Speaker 2:Facebook. Yeah, we were like Richie called me. He's like ah, we've made Topics.
Speaker 3:I read it Two cops Well, what happened for me to even know that the chief had called and I think it was at the time, I think it was Stuart. So Stuart knew everything that was going on. At all times. People always called Stuart, so he had called me. He's like who got stabbed up at Walmart? And I was like I don't know. He's like did you guys not respond to a stabbing at Walmart? And I'm like no, we didn't. So come to find out, it was me and him that they thought had stabbed this woman.
Speaker 3:Richie stabbed her just with a taser. Yeah. So he's thinking we're lying to him. He's like well, people are telling me you guys were stabbed. There was a stabbing at one moment. I'm like no, there wasn't. So we finally got to the bottom of it.
Speaker 2:Oh, they were talking about it all over over, you know, we were there for a hot second. It's funny how the rumor mill builds yeah, I went to the hospital and they were talking about it. I was like stabbing what, what? Are you talking about now? We've worked plenty of stabbings, but I've never.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, if a cop is involved in anything by the time it gets, by the time before the week's out it it's added so much layers to it that's not even funny. Oh yeah, you can't help it, it's crazy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, pull out your work for you. Let's see here.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'll tell you. Okay. So Flash's stepdad was a cop too.
Speaker 3:He's been dug so he's already been on here, so I'll tell one real quick on him. We get this call from dispatch and they're saying oh my god, there's people shot, laying in the field. People are down. It's so bad that even the field, you know people are down. Well, they need help. You know it's so bad that even the dispatchers, you know you can tell he's got a little urgency to him which was out of the ordinary for most of them. So, and you kind of knew who to take serious and who not. Well, this particular dispatcher, I was like, uh-oh, it's bad, he's tore up, so it's bad, he's tore up, so it is bad. So they say it's at the end of the road. When you go in, that's where all the people are.
Speaker 3:So Doug and I are headed out there. You know lights and sirens, woo, woo, woo. So we're flying, we get out through there and we're thinking at the end of the road, at the very end, not the front end, we're thinking the back end, that would be the front. So, as we're driving down this gravel, we turn off the main road and turn down this gravel road. We're getting close, so we're driving all the way to the end. Well, these people see us and they start flagging us. Well, doug sees them and stops. Well, about the time he stops I catch him out of the corner of my eye and I'm watching. I'm like, oh, I guess it's right here. Well, I look up and I'm going 45 miles an hour. Doug's at a dead stop. I hit him in the rear end. Two branded cruis Demolished them both. So and I mean I hit him hard and he's getting out and he's like dazed because I mean I literally probably hit him at 45 miles an hour.
Speaker 3:It was fast, I don't know how fast, but so he gets out and he's like looking at me and he's like I think he's looking at me like he's going to fight me, he's going to come over here and punch me. But I didn't know if that was the confusion or the anger, or both, or injury or the whiplash. So I'm like man, oh my God, man, are you all right? What's going on? Well, these people, they don't miss the beat. They're coming over there're like oh my god, I want him arrested and I want this one arrested. And doug looks at them people and he says for the love of god, will you give me a second?
Speaker 3:I've just been in a major 1046 here. My mech is broke. You're going to have to solve it. We're going to need tow trucks. Yeah, we did. We had to have tow trucks, two brand new. You know, if people are not aware, sheriff's Office budgets in the state of Kentucky are not that great typically no. So getting two brand new cruisers pretty much at the time is an oddity, and then to wreck them really puts you on thin ice, I'd say so.
Speaker 2:I bet Gene was not real happy.
Speaker 3:I don't think the second-in-command was too happy.
Speaker 5:That's a pretty common occurrence, though, with us hitting each other, I bet he was like Rich what did?
Speaker 2:he say Rich.
Speaker 3:Gosh, this ain't going to be good, oh man.
Speaker 2:We've had gosh, you've been, so you was at the county, been at the city. I've been a little bit everywhere. Yeah, let's hear about some let's see here.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I don't know if any of you guys were with me, but we were checking alarm one night at one of the local nutrition shops. Was either one of you with me on that one?
Speaker 3:It might have been G or something, but anyway, you know, we checked a thousand alarms in your career. So I pull up there and then the shop owner is there as well. Well, we go through the front door and it had been left open and so I'm thinking immediately somebody's in there because it was ajar. So I'm like I better go around to the back. And then I think somebody was with me and I put them on the front door just in case this perpetrator come running out. So I go to the back and I have the shop owner open the back door. Well, he opens that back door and I immediately screamed like a girl because this room was full of mannequins.
Speaker 3:So I'm thinking I've got an army of frogs in there, and so I just had enough life to tell that there was a silhouette in there, and I I scared me to death, oh my gosh, I was like I hope there is not any real robbers I don't think there ended up being anybody in there, or what man?
Speaker 2:one day the uh shallows alarm went off and it used to go off some, but this is the first time I answered it and I was in there with hump and I mean so yeah, he's getting out there. And they had an open door at the front, the front door open. So as you enter the restaurant you're like you got bathrooms on both sides, quarter, you like the drop-in quarter, pusher things, and there's noises going on and you walk into in the front and you turn left and there's a giant wooden like indian sitting there with a gun.
Speaker 3:I remember it used to be in there I'm out listening.
Speaker 2:I took 10 steps backwards into doug, like just knowing like it's got me because I think one of the quarter things that fail.
Speaker 4:Or you know, backwards into Doug, like I think the noise is going on oh my gosh, the one at the at the flea, the flea market, the parrot is that when you're in there?
Speaker 2:clearing a building and that thing goes off.
Speaker 5:Nobody told me about that. The first time we cleared you ever go in there so you go through it, and when we would clear the flea market you always had to wait on marty or somebody to get there to turn the lights and stuff on so we just cleared it in the dark. Well, nobody told me that this. It's a. It's like a claw machine with a parrot in it and it it's motion activated, so when you walk by it it talks. Oh God.
Speaker 3:So we're just clearing.
Speaker 5:I mean, you see the machine but you don't realize. So you walk through it and you get past it just a minute and it squawks out. It's a cracker. I like to put my hands first up. I spun around, I put rounds in it.
Speaker 2:That old wooden Indian or whatever shallow just about got me.
Speaker 5:I was like, oh my gosh, was you out with us on the uh, the verizon break-in? Uh, refresh me he broke in through, went in through the back door, cut through the mattress wall at the mattress store.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he comes out the mattress. Yeah, absolutely, that's the craziest thing I've ever seen that was nuts.
Speaker 5:So we get an alarm out there and it's, you know, I go out there and check it. All the doors are locked, everything. We don't think anything of it. So we go eat. You know it's, it's 10-4, we're, we're 98, and then the alarm goes off again. So a repeat alarm is usually not a good thing. So it's like, all right, I'm gonna go check it again. So I get over there and I hear a bunch of pounding. Sounds like metal. You know, metal on metal. I said uh-oh. So I called for everybody to come up there. I said we got somebody in here and he had. He went in through the back door but when we surrounded it we didn't know which way he'd went in. So there's not. All the doors are still locked. We don't know how he got in. So, uh, they get ready to go in through the back door. I think g jimmy the door opened with a pocket knife or something yeah, yeah, they did.
Speaker 5:And then, uh, the ladder was open on the, like the hatch to the, to the roof. I said, well, maybe he's cut in through the roof, because that's not unheard of, they would cut in through the roof of the dollar stores. And so I'm halfway up this ladder dangling and they go in, and then I hear them squalling. He's running out the front door, but the the front door had a crossbar on it, like the push bar. So, as they're chasing him through, and, uh, he runs. He runs through the front door, throws his crowbar through the front glass, breaks it Dang as he's running.
Speaker 5:As he's running.
Speaker 4:That guy. He was very athletic.
Speaker 5:I'd have never caught him. There's no way.
Speaker 2:You're flash, you're speedy yeah.
Speaker 5:I'd have never caught him. Nobody else caught him on foot either. I'll get to that how he got caught. Yeah, nobody else caught him on foot either. I'll get to that how he got caught. Yeah and uh. So he's. He doesn't see the crossbar and he's full, full speed, hits that crossbar, waist level. It flips him. So he does a front flip through the glass, lands on his feet and books it across 192 to krogerger. So they're chasing him. I mean, the rest of us have got in cars and by that time another officer I think he's still working, so we won't name him.
Speaker 5:But he ended the foot pursuit with a car door.
Speaker 2:Sometimes, you've got to catch them.
Speaker 4:Twice, twice, twice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was probably the fastest white dude I'd ever seen in my life. He should have been in college football playing. Yes, he was super fast Forced up speed, I mean he was gone so fast that me and the other sergeant of course we're older and fat, so you know we're looking at each other. Oh my god. So I mean they're all the way over in the kroger's parking lot before we can even get in our car yeah, we were all the way on the back side.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it was what I've learned, since you can't catch them on foot is just walk they'll, they'll give out if you keep them inside.
Speaker 2:We didn't ever caught that guy he was no this dude he had an, he had a little extra gear, maybe a meth gear.
Speaker 4:He was very athletic. He was.
Speaker 3:And I've never seen anything like that. He literally hits that crossbar, spins over lands on two feet and never misses a beat, still running.
Speaker 5:It was like you'd see him hurdle in the NFL. Like they'd do that in a touchdown.
Speaker 4:Keep going.
Speaker 5:It's impressive If you tried to do it, if it wasn't for the cornerback and the Crown Vic that took him out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so this dude Crown Vic to the rescue he's totally against policy. But I mean, I'm getting over to Kroger's parking lot about this time so I see this door open and it hits this guy and he goes to him and I'm like, oh, oh god, that's against policy, that's a memo. You know, the dude was brand new to us at the time.
Speaker 5:So he gets up again, though against policy. He gets up again it was effective.
Speaker 3:It definitely was effective. Then, of course, you know one of the many times I got called into the office to explain our actions well, you know I don't have any time.
Speaker 5:We were like don't worry about the means, worry about the results.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the results speak for themselves, chief, we caught a burglar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you want us to do? How do you want?
Speaker 5:us to catch him. He had a laundry list of burglary charges down in like Georgia and all up.
Speaker 2:You remember when we caught the guy up in, he was a little fella. We caught him up in the I was going to get to that one too. Let's do that one, Okay.
Speaker 3:All right. So the town is under siege at one point. For the most part, I mean every single day. I mean there's 15 cars getting broken into. I mean that's all we're doing.
Speaker 4:Churches cars businesses as soon as we're coming out to work.
Speaker 3:I mean we're taking stolen cell phone reports and wallet reports out of cars. So I mean this goes on for like three weeks and I'm like, oh my God, we've got to catch this guy. He's terrorizing us in the town. Well, we get a random I don't remember exactly what happened. Well, we get a random I don't remember exactly what happened, but we get a random call over just this house apartment building, and I think it was an apartment, and there's this lady there and you know we're taking a report for her and all this. So we ended up. We ended up, for some reason, we ended up needing to search the residence and she gave us permission.
Speaker 2:We said we had like a tip or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we had a tip or something but it was totally for not what we were there for, what we ended up being there for. So we're looking around, we don't find anything. But I do see a purple cell phone with a flower, a flower, old it floral design on it and I was thinking wait, I just took a report on a. So so I reach out and grab the phone, I turned it on, sure enough it's got my victim's name on it. Oh, my god, we're onto something. So I go back running downstairs, you know, and ask the woman who's there is like is there somebody else here? And she's like yeah, I was like well, we haven't found them. But okay, I said what's their name and she told me the name and I was like of course, that's our guy.
Speaker 3:You know we've dealt with him so many times. So I'm like, are you sure he's in there? She said yes, I'm sure. And you know she didn't want to tell him, but she's trying to be real quiet because the upstairs window was open and I guess she didn't want him to hear her throwing him under the bus. So she was just kind of like nodding her head and I was like okay. So we went back upstairs and he was with me. I said Travis. I said she's saying he's here. So I mean we're looking everywhere, I mean we're climbing up in the ceiling, tiles and everything. I'm like where is this guy?
Speaker 3:looking under beds. You know pulling shower curtains behind it. You know bathtubs.
Speaker 3:I'm like, oh my god, he must have slipped out yeah so at that time I was like we just need to start collecting some evidence, I guess, see what all stuff we can get back. So I mean we spend 45 minutes in this house collecting stuff and getting stolen jewelry and all the stuff that we think you know that might can be identified by some of these victims. Well, I go back into this closet and I turn around and I just happened to see an eyeball looking at me. This dude was so little, he was a little fella and super thin. The door was all the way back against the wall. I bet you literally there were six inches of clearance in there and somehow he managed to fit in there and done it for 45 minutes.
Speaker 2:Perfect burglar uh body. Yeah, I mean, he had it so it scares me.
Speaker 3:I'm like squeezing like a mouse. I'm screaming, I'm like get out, get out of there, you know. So travis hears me, so that amps him up immediately. I was yeah so attacked.
Speaker 3:So at that time, you know he's you know travis, strong big guy, you know, always working out, know he's. You know, travis, strong big guy, you know always working out. So he, he grabs a hold of this guy and he goes to throw him on the bed well, I guess where he, this dude, is so lit on, his adrenaline is so, so amped up he kind of picks him up high so he throws him on this bed. Well, as soon as he hits this bed, son, he bounces, dude bounces almost all the way up to the ceiling.
Speaker 2:It's an air mattress. Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1:So we're both looking at each other like what do we?
Speaker 3:do now. So he just lands on the ground.
Speaker 2:So I'm like get him.
Speaker 3:Pile up on him.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, he was funny. I was like man. I power cleaned that guy over my head.
Speaker 3:I was like I wish that I had that on video. Oh man. You can't make it up. He just looked like a circus act Boing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I went straight back to the ceiling and piled in the floor. I was like uh-oh, uh-oh, I went too far.
Speaker 3:Again. So all three of us are looking at each other like he can't believe it. Travis can't believe it, neither can I. I'm like get him. So we got to do something.
Speaker 2:We got to do something here. We saw it slow down for a while, though, it did it did. It was fun. Gosh, we get in a mess. It wasn't really good for us to answer a lot of calls together.
Speaker 3:Because if it was going gonna happen to Richie, if it wasn't gonna happen to him, it was gonna happen to me. And then you put us together and it was a when he and I both would be on a shift together. It was the black cloud of death would appear.
Speaker 2:Something was happening, something and it could be so random, just like just a routine wreck or something. That would take it like, I don't know, nobody speaks Spanish or everybody speaks Spanish. I don't know what to do now. We just look at each other.
Speaker 3:yeah, like literally now that I'm, now that I'm retired, I'll tell this story on myself. We get a wreck one day and it happened in between that, the exits there on the interstate. So I pull up and I'm like shoot, because everybody that got out of the vehicle there was some kind of white whitish van and something, but there were 15 people in it and not a one spoke English. I was like, oh my God, well, they had run into somebody in, just rear-ended them. Yeah, so, and some random guy at Ohio or somewhere, so he's demanding a report and all this, of course, and I'm like so, so I'm like what am I gonna do? I can't, but I know, good and well, they've got no insurance, yeah, no driver's license no driver's license.
Speaker 3:Nobody speaks English. So I just go back there and I tell them One of the few words I know I'm like vamos, vamos. So they load back up and they take off. So I'm thinking, what am I going to tell this guy? So I tell him I'm like man, they just ran off on me. I was like I'm going to chase them down. So I act like I was chasing the van down.
Speaker 5:I get off at the next exit and I go back to the police department because I don't know what to do. No, yeah, I don't even know how you would. I mean, that would have been a whole can of worms.
Speaker 3:The dude was like all right man, catch him, catch him, come back. I'm like I will. I never came back.
Speaker 2:Never found anybody.
Speaker 5:Legend says he's still sitting there waiting on the surfboard.
Speaker 3:I always check that spot when I come to you.
Speaker 2:Make sure that guy's still not waiting on me.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that was a good one. I'm not quite ready to reveal some of my shenanigans yet. See that one was by myself so there's no one else to implicate but myself, man there's just some things you just can't do in the amount of the language barrier or just like this. One really needs somebody to help them and I'm just not qualified or smart enough to help you on this. I have no idea how to help you that is.
Speaker 3:That is a bad spot. And and and with well, with all the other the language barriers, it's, it's, you know, because there are some people that really need help and you just can't figure out how to help them. You know, a lot of times you can't even figure out what they want.
Speaker 2:So imagine my first day SRO at the school for the deaf. Oh goodness, I have not. You know, I got in the five, six months I was there. I got to where I could be like, hey, good morning.
Speaker 5:The homeless sign language. He knows his big finger.
Speaker 2:They taught me some stuff.
Speaker 2:Dang kids, it's everywhere you go, a kid will teach you how to cuss, right off the bat. He's like first Spanish words I'll ever learn was this stuff? I'm like oh gosh, go tell the master chief this and this. I'm like, oh gosh, go tell the master chief this and this. I'm like oh, okay, yeah. Then he's like who told you that? Yeah, so I'm at the school for the deaf and they have a night shift. You know, they open or they have dorms, so. So I'll get there from a first day and they, you know, I'd ask the head of security there. They have like a guy that's over the security and then they'd contract SROs. So it was pretty cool. I wasn't, you know, the only security guy there, and he's like all I need you to do in the mornings is go down there and block traffic for the students walking from the dorm to the cafeteria.
Speaker 4:Boom.
Speaker 2:So I get out of the car and I'm waving at people and hey, good morning. They start signing to me and it's awesome. I learned a whole lot real quick. But the first day some random person I didn't know it was a random person, I'm brand new walks through the campus, this gated fence campus, and this guy was cutting through and the guy that was working that night was deaf and he was trying to tell me, like I don't know that guy and I was just like he's nodding my head like how you doing buddy?
Speaker 2:They're getting so frustrated and you're like, yeah, they're pointing to pull his hair. I was like yeah, he was just pointing at it, like yeah, good.
Speaker 5:T-Dots just forced him away.
Speaker 2:Finally somebody you know a translator or something was like no, he's saying that guy don't belong here. I was like, oh man, half a mile down the road by then. So I just drove down there and pretended like I found him, like I told him not to be bad and I'm in a county, in a town that I've never policed in my life and I've only been there one time and that was the interview, and so I had no idea how to radio traffic. I didn't know what street I was on. I was just happy that I made it over there. That g, that my, that gps got me there, my you know maps or whatever.
Speaker 2:It was wild. I was just like, but never in my life have I had a job where it's more rewarding, and if it wasn't so far away I'd still be there. But and and I but I was learning. I was like man, everybody needs it, because when we dealt with with deaf or hard of hearing people, we just got louder we weren't really the same way with the Spanish do you understand, though, what I'm saying and you're like man, what are we doing?
Speaker 5:I stopped a guy on the interstate and he had a passenger with him, but he didn't have a driver's license. It was suspended, no insurance, anything. You know all that. But we were in the catch-and-release stage of our career, so you know, you write him some tickets, let it go. I was like you can't drive this. And I hadn't paid any attention to the passenger at all. I mean, it could have been Stevie Wonder for all I know. But I was like you can't drive this out of here. And his passenger looks at me Well, no, she don't. But I was like your passenger's going to have to drive you out of here. And he's like she can't. I was like does she not have a driver's license either? She takes her sunglasses off, she goes no, I'm blind, oh man. I was like, oh all right, Sorry man.
Speaker 5:Have a good day. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:We've seen some dope, we've done some stupid stuff. It's not because we didn't want to try to help you, just you. Just there's calls you go to that. You have no idea what to do.
Speaker 3:Right, there's so much gray area in the law that they don't teach you that. You're like, oh my gosh, what do we do here?
Speaker 5:and you try to help people out when you can and give breaks and all that, and then sometimes that blows back and bites you it does.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that, I'm saying, is no good deed goes unpunished absolutely.
Speaker 2:You just just might as well just law them or whatever and be done with it. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, I mean because you're like, well, god damn it.
Speaker 5:And then you're right back over there and you talked about being new and and radio traffic and not not knowing I'll. I'll tell a good story on me and richie can laugh about it the old, the infamous white asian, what so I was. I was pretty new, but I was, you know, I was to the point was the all night shift together. Is that, yes, okay I was to the point that I knew what I was doing and wanting to get into stuff, and trying to get into stuff and was getting into stuff but then when I got into it I didn't know what I was doing, you know.
Speaker 5:So we got this complaint over one of the apartment complexes and it was a it was a drug deal or something suspicious vehicle. So I go and as soon as I pull in, behind the vehicle dude bolts. Well, there's passengers there too. She pops out and I was like don't effing move. And I take off running after this guy and, uh, you know, you got to give your call out, so it's. You know it's description, you know clothing, height, all. So I'm giving all this out and I'm like 5'5" he's a little short dude, 5'5". Black pants, white sneakers, red shirt, white. And then, about the time that I get white out, he turns around and looks at me to see where I'm at and I go Asian, white, asian.
Speaker 3:So we're on our way, we're at the PU, there's two or three of to see where I'm at and I go Asian, white, asian, so we're on our way we're at the. Pd and there's two or three of us, we just look at each other and say oh my god, did he just say white Asian? So you know, of course you don't ever know the context of what radio traffic is, unless you're there.
Speaker 5:No, I can just imagine him and Roby looking at each other, because this guy is retarded, you've lost your mind.
Speaker 3:Well that I just that brings up a good story. I just thought of and and about radio traffic, because I was at I won't say where, but I was at one of my places and I just started. So I don't want, I don't know anybody, I don't know the radio traffic, I'm just. I'm just like what you're saying, I don't know anybody, you know I'm, I'm there, so I'll report to the office the first, the very first day. And there's, this lady comes out and they're wanting a car inspection done or something like that. So one of the ladies at the front desk comes out and she's very heavy set. So she makes a misstep and falls right in front of me. I mean, she crashes for 13 minutes.
Speaker 3:I mean she's rolling down. So I'm like, oh God, so I go over. So I don't know who to call, or nothing like that. So I'm trying to help her and she's smacking at me like get off me, I'm in uniform. I'm like I'm not trying to hurt you, I'm trying to help. I'm like what do I do? Do I call Blackhawk down? What do I do here? I mean, who do I even call? So I understand what it's like to not know who to talk to Because I don't know what to do. You know, I don't know. She's crying.
Speaker 2:I'm like, oh god, this lady hurt. Oh my gosh, I've seen. I remember going to a call like like not knowing, but my, I've ever told you about my second traffic stop I ever made? I don't think so. Number two, doc Holliday, oh my, he was my training officer and we had I'm going back into the deaf, hard of hearing guy we just went to the Ponderosa. I remember eating at the Ponderosa back in the day. Over here he sits me down. I've been with him for like three weeks. No, no, no, like three or four days. He's like you need to start stopping more cars. I was like, okay, because I'd stopped one. He said you blew that one. I was like, get out there, yeah, new stuff. And he said we need to start stopping more cars. And I'm like, okay, so as soon as we could finish eating I was like I'm going to get on 192 and just stop.
Speaker 2:The first thing I see One goes by me with one headlight. I'm like, ah, there, it is, there it is. So he's like did you see that one? I said, yeah, I'm getting up here to the lot I'm going to turn. And so I pull him over at Crystal's in the parking lot there. I'm like, huh, this is where I can have a grand. I run the tag Before we get stopped. It comes back stolen. They give all the codes for that stuff and I'm like what's that mean? I'm looking at my kid. He's like cover us, it's stolen, so fill it up. I'm like I'm starting to melt down. I'm like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3:I got the gun out like an idiot. I did this once in the academy.
Speaker 5:I don't remember what I'm doing. Driver, I'm supposed to tell you to do something.
Speaker 3:I don't remember what it is Soak your keys, or do something I don't remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this guy pulls in the crystal. He starts just going to town in his glove compartment, his little pickup truck, and I could see it. I'm like, oh my gosh, this guy's going for a weapon. I said he's, you know, it's stolen. He's not complying, he's not coming down there's no hands I mean, we're screaming on the pa. We're just screaming and, uh, he's digging around. I'm like, oh my gosh, this is my second stop and i'm'm going to have to.
Speaker 4:You know, I'm going to have to go to work here. I'm like what am?
Speaker 2:I doing. I was like, oh my God, you know, I'm like in pure panic and Mike's kind of creeping up just kind of getting a side view of what's going on. Well, somebody bust out of the crystals. She was working in there. That's my daddy, what do you do? What's going on? I was like that truck stole, stay back, he's deaf. He's deaf, and I'm like, so our approach became we approached the car and he was just digging in there for his paperwork. Somebody reported, you know, he hadn't made a payment and they from a buy here pay here and, they reported, stole his way back.
Speaker 2:I mean, this has been 25 years, 23 years ago now. So I'm like holy cow, I was that close on my second stop shooting a death and oh my gosh, I mean you're like, I was shaking after, I was like, and then you know you have to arrest this guy and he's like it's not stolen, you know he's. I'm like I don't know what to tell this guy because I, hey, I can't talk to him. It was just bad, that was just like my gosh, what am I doing? What have I done?
Speaker 5:that must be a pretty common occurrence of not knowing what to do, not doing enough traffic stops did you do some well I'll let you, let richie tell you about which one are you talking about? On the interstate.
Speaker 2:Do you stop on?
Speaker 5:He's like let's go stop some cars.
Speaker 3:Well, you know how they got on that big ticket kick which I hated riding tickets, I did too.
Speaker 3:But you know you got to do what the boss tells you. So I'm field training him or PTO, whatever the call it. I'm green as baby crap. Yeah, he is pretty green. So I have another officer shooting LIDAR or one of those lasers and so you can't shoot it through the glass so you have to be outside of your vehicle. So we put him on top of the bridge and we were going to be just the chase vehicle. So we lined up there on the on the shoulder. So he called one out black cadillac. So it goes by, you know a black cadillac 87 miles an hour. Well, we get on the interstate to chase this black cadillac at 87 miles an hour.
Speaker 3:Well, we get in the all the way in the left lane, I think best I remember I don't for sure know we're obeying all the speed and traffic laws, so at this time. I'm like I look over at the speed and we're doing 70. Right on the mark, 70. And I'm like I'm not the smartest tool in the shed and I never was good at math, but if that car is going 17 miles an hour faster than we are, that we're gonna catch it. So I'm like you may want to speed up, you catch it Corbin.
Speaker 5:No, he's like forget that one, he's like just stop one. And I was like okay, and he said like this one that's passivist, laughing, laughing you're like, literally, we're in a marked vehicle, we're in a marked police car and this car is going. I'm in that mode though I don't know what to do with my hands laughing that is the worst feeling of not know what to do with my hands.
Speaker 2:That's all. That is the worst feeling of not knowing, like, what to do. You're like. I've been to the academy, I've got all this knowledge somewhere up here rattling around, but I still don't know anything to come out yeah, that academy is just enough to make you dangerous I know it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's. We used to do that type of detail a lot and there was what was the mistaken identity car one time didn't was it you that sold over the wrong car, or me or somebody?
Speaker 5:no, I'd hit the wrong car. So he called out another car. Well, there was two similar cars. Well, I picked the wrong one and, uh, the officer running. He's like no, that's not it, but what sucked is? I'd already started running the information and here comes dispatch, like I was going to cut them loose because it was like a 75, 80 year old woman that's right here comes dispatch and dispatch.
Speaker 5:God love them. Sometimes, when you wanted more information, it was like pulling teeth to get it, yeah. But then when you didn't want more information, oh, they give it, oh they would. It was like finding the holy grail they'd give it. So I'm walking back to my car and they go uh break, uh 29s. I was like oh this eight-year-old woman had some kind of seat belt warrant I had to take her to jail yeah she's oh
Speaker 3:I bet it's not her I pull up there and I'm like, oh my god, this is the wrong car. That ain't what we were talking about. So he's got the wrong car stopped, but now we've got this 85-year-old woman to deal with.
Speaker 2:There is nothing worse than pulling over that single mom with three kids in there infants, oh God, and her have a warrant for a traffic violation and you're like are you? 10-12? I'm like nope.
Speaker 5:And there's nothing you can do about it. Oh, I, I mean, you can.
Speaker 2:Now that I'm retired, yeah.
Speaker 4:No, that's not her.
Speaker 2:I got to run that wrong and just call this guy and they never ever, ever had anybody that could come and get the kids?
Speaker 3:No, never.
Speaker 2:It was always was all three o'clock in the morning from from shelbyville or something you're like, huh, no trick I learned, trick I learned later and I wish I knew it then.
Speaker 5:Not saying that it was ever used by anybody, but just a trick to have in your in your playbook. Is when dispatch came back with that? No, that was just an id that I found in the car.
Speaker 2:Ah, Thou shalt, that was the worst thing. When you're like, this person is going to cause the worst nightmare, I'm going to have to call social services out, or something for a something that she probably got the cash for, yeah. So I'm like you got to go get this fixed.
Speaker 3:Dogs the same way oh my gosh, somebody come and get this. Fixed dogs the same way oh my gosh, somebody come and get your dog. There ain't nobody to get it. Then you call animal control and then they're like we can't come out on the weekends, holidays, we only work two to ten on monday they were useless for the most part but, not, not to not to throw off on them, but it just seemed like every time that you oh yeah it was like everything that happened in police workers at the most inappropriate time.
Speaker 2:I know yeah, which we were pretty impatient too, so you know man, I couldn't stand waiting on a wrecker if it was 30 minutes.
Speaker 5:I was so mad well, I didn't mind that, because I could go back to my car and type my. You type your accident while you're waiting on it.
Speaker 3:So that was one of the tech generation with him. Yeah, you know they'd have their paperwork knocked out in five minutes. You know I'd just be there on the above listed yeah.
Speaker 2:Now I remember the first time I rode a big you know, after we got past bubbling, you know, hand-wrapping wrecks and bubbling in all that stuff the old school way to work a wreck or a case report.
Speaker 5:We did a couple of those in the academy, but that's the only time that I ever saw it.
Speaker 2:They were horrible and I used to carry, like one of them, pocket dictionaries, the spell checker type deal. Well, when the app came, when Kentucky Ops or whatever came out first, it didn't have spell check on it. So I'm sitting there and I look up one day and I've got Joe Smith or somebody put one of my reports up on the bulletin board there and highlighted all my spells Under the fagpole and just stupid stuff. I was like man, I just left out an L man. It was flagpole Witch. I remember spelling witch.
Speaker 3:Like a W-I-T-C-H. Yeah, I was like which way W-I-T-C-H.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was spelling witch.
Speaker 4:Witch Y-W-H-I.
Speaker 3:Was she on her bruise. She cast a spell.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh, my gosh, I am really dumb. I don't know how I made it, I really don't. And then, let alone to actually run in the department for a hot second. You're like, how did I pull this off? What is going on? And you did too. Oh, which was it? I was running the department. Both of us ran police departments for a hot minute. Oh my gosh, the big town of Broadhead yeah, huge. It was fun times. I love that little town. Greatest little school ever.
Speaker 3:I tell you, there was a lot that went on.
Speaker 2:Yeah you had some bad calls up there, didn't you Right off the bat?
Speaker 5:Of course you was it.
Speaker 2:Right off the bat, one of the worst calls I ever heard Chief and the only officer.
Speaker 3:I was the only officer I had for a while. Then I got lucky and got one, and then we ended up getting a part-time and I was like hot dog. I'm flying with two and a half days.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you how much I love Richie Richie's. I answer a call at a local Edward Jones office on North Main. So somebody had stole, you know. It was like a stolen wallet or misplaced something that they had found in the parking lot and I just went there to retrieve it and this guy sitting there I guess he's a client and he was like do you know, richie reynolds? I was like yeah, because I'm from broadhead, we're thinking about hiring this guy and I was like, oh my gosh. I was like yeah, and uh, he said he was like commissioner or whatever city councilman or something. Yeah, I was like, yeah, yeah, and he was like commissioner or whatever city councilman or something. Yeah, yeah, I was like, yeah, you need to hire that guy. I was like you're welcome, just out of the blue.
Speaker 5:He said thanks for that, yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you had a bad call over there, that kind of I don't know. I'd hate to be a rookie on that one.
Speaker 3:Well, I didn't have enough investigative experience over the years to really work that myself. You know I never was a detective absolutely. I called state police and said if you don't mind. Would you please work this one yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't. I know any time that murders and stuff like that. It's just awful and that's why we got you have to partner well with the people around you, I mean your other agencies. You can't go off solo and think you've got all the skills and all the tools and you're. These guys train specifically in investigations and they're dedicated to it more, or when you're in small departments, you just can't.
Speaker 5:you gotta rely on on the help we had the killer stunt the killer stunt but I mean, I don't know if I need to get into that one or not. I don't know if we can talk about that one yet or not, but I don't think I'm aware of that one.
Speaker 4:I'll I'll talk about that when we're done the park murder.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I don't, I don't think I was involved in that.
Speaker 5:No, you were going, but there's a lot of good stuff. That's a funny story.
Speaker 4:Well, it's terrible, but it has some funny elements to it.
Speaker 5:When I find out that we're clear to talk about it, we'll talk about it.
Speaker 3:We're not under gag order. Yeah, we're not sure if it's pending or anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not sure if it's pending or anything. Yeah, what else you got? I know you got some.
Speaker 3:I mean, you've had a historic career full of tragedies. I'm telling you, I wish I could remember all of them, doug.
Speaker 2:Thomas. When he was here he said policing is like being in a movie it could be a comedy, a tragedy.
Speaker 5:Depending on what the public yeah. Well, how?
Speaker 2:the public dictated what, what role you played in it, and I thought, man, that is a really good way to look at it all, but yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 3:And you go through so many stages in your career. You know you go from the rookie to the to the um to the. Now I'm confident in what I'm doing and you're really. You're really getting out, getting into stuff. You're trying to help people like I'll bet you, over the course of my career I've probably given away fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 2:You know, between you know, give feeding people I mean how many people, how many people we bought bus tickets for to get them yeah and the people don't know that stuff.
Speaker 3:You know, and that's not a brag no, it's not a brag, but you go through those phases of trying to help people and being confident. When you get to about the year for me, about year 13, 14, it took a turn Once I started understanding the dynamics and the politics that are played and some of the you know, then it kind of turns you a little bitter. So, but not everybody, not everybody, goes through that. So it you know everybody goes through different phases in their career. Some experience it, some don't.
Speaker 2:So I think you're right. There's a burnout, there's that rookie three years. Then there's a five-year burnout, there's a 10-year burnout. You know, we kind of get it straight and then, and at that five year, if you can hit- something different hit a different branch it renews but I think that is key for, yeah, larger agencies have that, yeah, to their advantage.
Speaker 2:When you get stuck being you know I've got good friends well, you was a working chief, you know, and you know administration you still had to go out and answer your calls and stuff that you know there's just no hope for ever getting to be like I'm going to detectives bureau, well, we got to have somebody covering shifts, or yeah, exactly, you just can't, and a five-year officer at that.
Speaker 5:At that kind of point. From what I seen is that you're at that good mix of. You're confident, your knowledge base is good, but you still have enough drive to do a good job in another area.
Speaker 3:Well, I think the thing about this side of the town that we're in, you don't have the luxury of having a big robbery homicide unit, you don't have just traffic enforcement, you don't there's nothing that you can really branch out into and specialize and specialize in so you know a lot of people.
Speaker 3:You hear them be like, oh my god, he retired from chicago pd. Well, you know he's. He was in just robbery homicide the last 10 years. An average patrol officer here sees and does it all. I mean they. They're on murder, suicides, robberies, rapes everything.
Speaker 5:So now we were lucky and we had, we had good sex crimes detectives.
Speaker 2:That picked up stuff like that thank the lord.
Speaker 3:I hated working them. I remember yeah, yeah, holy shit, those were bad. I got in trouble by her.
Speaker 2:She Lover one of the best detectives, especially in that there's ever been. So I just went to one of them sex crime detective classes and I came back and I made the mistake of Mirandizing the victim because she was a juvenile, I was with you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was one of the school. I was with you and they lost their mind. I didn't know that that was wrong either.
Speaker 2:I didn't either, because both of us come from the school site. We know that you, you've got to talk you've got to mind us, every single juvenile. And so I just did that, when you get woke up at 2 o'clock in the morning, to come in and take something you're like.
Speaker 5:Well, your training takes over. And then, oh, she was mad.
Speaker 2:She's like don't you ever hey.
Speaker 5:Yes, ma'am, you know I was probably a sergeant or maybe you know whatever, and I'm like, yes, ma'am, oh, we were both sergeants yeah and it was just, it was just one of them deals where you're like well then, it makes sense, because not only are you, I mean you're you're putting the victim in a place where they oh, am I in trouble?
Speaker 2:yeah, that's what it was the idea yeah, but when you've dealt with juveniles like I had for every day and I Mirandized that was the law you Mirandize every juvenile, no matter if you're going to talk to them. So it was just the first thing I said.
Speaker 4:I started.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh afterwards I'm like, yeah, she caught it, great job. Don't you ever? Miranda has a victim again. Yes, ma'am, yeah, sorry, whatever you say, but she's great. You know she was great. And then, yeah, you learn a lot. She's a good interviewer especially. I'd hate to do her job.
Speaker 5:Interviewing was never my forte. With our little crew, joey was the the interviewer I could find, find the dope, but I always said that joey could talk a nun out of her panties.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, she is that's the cool thing when you, when you have a squad, when you and you especially supervise them, when you get to know their strengths and weaknesses and then utilize that, that kind of gives you a break. If you're a unit, go find it. If you're, if you're somebody that can talk and interview you're. That was kind of gives you a break. If you're a find it unit, go find it.
Speaker 3:If you're, if you're somebody that can talk and interview you're that was one of the things that aggravated me a lot about about it, because our uppers at times which I won't say any names or nothing like that I don't want to ostracize anybody because they're just doing what they're doing, but that was kind of my feelings on the matter is I wanted to run my shift to play on everybody's strengths and what they wanted to do If we had a guy that wanted to write tickets.
Speaker 3:I'd you know, okay, man, go write tickets, because the rest of us don't want to and our numbers still look good. Or this one wants to find dope or whatever. So we'd give him a break off the radio, let him go hunt some, you know, see if he can find a good meth lab or something. Yeah, but it didn't work that way all the time and I think that goes back to the.
Speaker 5:We had a structure of this is how we've done it, this is how we're always going to do it and kind of kind of mentality you can't change well and if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 3:So I think well policing went from we're not changing, we're not changing, we're not changing, we're not changing to oh my god, we've got to change.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just overnight so yeah, I think we've talked about this on some other show. You know, you can remember back, ferguson was probably the one of the. That's the biggest change. Yeah, that was from from the way our training officers from the 90s, 80s and 90s trained us. What year did you start policing? 98. So 98. I was 2002, so four years later we were still trained by these 80s guys and early 90s guys. So we were learning the old school, this is what we do. And then so we trained that way, and then all of a sudden, something like a ferguson or where eyes get put on you really hard. Not that that guy did, you know, he just did the job. It was just, it was a lot of political things that happened. That was a big, big change, and then, of course, everything else in between, but I'm sure there's other things and then the way we've policed has changed, and it's for the better. I mean, you have to be able to change in some way.
Speaker 2:I would love to go back to where you could just take care of business and leave it.
Speaker 3:You're right, there needs to be more understanding and more patience on the side of the police. Because a lot of times you can come up with an understanding or an agreement with the community or whoever you're trying to police. That turns out to be a better situation.
Speaker 5:I think we need to drop the old mentality of and a lot of the guys I worked with didn't have it, but then some of them did is I'm the police, by God?
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. I mean the way you are. The police need to be held accountable to a degree on, or to a big degree on, the way that they act, but, however, they still need the.
Speaker 4:I'm the police by God, because you don't need to be like Seattle, where they don't the cowardlessness that does society right?
Speaker 2:it does society any good to be chicken, to be wimps, because the fabric of the whole society goes down.
Speaker 5:It was Capone that said don't misunderstand my kindness for weakness.
Speaker 2:Don't take my kindness for weakness. I've used that some. But I think in my career you know, you see these things happen and it's just sad because I worry about the next generation. So our generation of policing is dying. You know we're not the new.
Speaker 3:And that's good and bad. Yeah, and that's both good and bad.
Speaker 5:And we've talked about it before kind of previously, and I've heard other podcasts talk about it as well is brotherhood's dying. It's not a brotherhood anymore, it's it's everybody's out to cut each other down. Yeah, it's just a job and that and that said, I mean we had a good brotherhood, and I mean and, and I will policing was a way of life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for a lot of us, you know, especially old military guys like back in the day, you know, we'd start out making $8 an hour. I had to run a hose from my cruiser to my apartment so I could have some air conditioning, but I was the police, so at the time that's all that mattered, because you was in an honorable job.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing. I don't know what happens next in policing. It's an interesting turn. I hope public gets back behind them.
Speaker 5:I think it'll get better. It'll get back to where it just kind of slinkies back and forth. I enjoy something will happen and the public hates them, and then something will happen again and the public loves this, and it's I mean, it's kind of a fickle beast and a fine line and and like we've said before, it just takes one bad apple to ruin the whole bunch for everybody.
Speaker 3:That's true. And the thing about policing is, you know and I do think that that they need to be paid well, because one mistake in this job is all it takes.
Speaker 5:You know that you make a mistake, you could end up in prison and if they ever get rid of qualified immunity, the job will not be worth doing that would be the day that anybody that is a cop in Kentucky should quit yeah, I agree wholeheartedly, because I agree.
Speaker 2:I mean there's how much insurance can you carry on your side for something?
Speaker 5:and then if somebody can take your home over something that you know you're doing something by policy, the way you were trained, but then still the court held liable by the court of public opinion. Yeah, so I mean. I don't know well we kind of got off on a tangent there, but sorry to get on a lighter side.
Speaker 5:I mean, I don't know. Well, we kind of got off on a tangent there, sorry. But to get on a lighter side, I've got one story I want to tell about Richie and hopefully he don't get too upset. But we talked about.
Speaker 3:Oh God, I know which one he's going to. Yeah, but I deserve this one.
Speaker 5:I actually deserve this one as a brotherhood. That's what I said. We had a good brotherhood. We were all on our squad. I mean everybody was friends. We went out to eat together, we hung out. I mean we were tight, but with that, brothers fight sometimes yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh man, richie probably got a fist fight. That's no big deal.
Speaker 5:And Richie, if he was in a bad mood at the start of the shift. I mean, it was pretty easy to push his buttons anyways, and we had another officer on shift that it was his, I mean.
Speaker 3:That was his mission to push buttons.
Speaker 5:That was. His mission was to push buttons any time he could and he was good at it. He was good at it and somebody once said that he's like, well, he is a dick, but he's a consistent dick. He's a dick every day. He's a dick every day to everybody. So we're uh, like little g was talking about. It was 12 o'clock. We went and got our food at walmart.
Speaker 2:That was the ritual 12 12 sandwiches or something sandwiches or microwave sushi or so you know it'd be something
Speaker 3:where?
Speaker 5:yeah, or five dollar sushi, or I set the pd on fire with a pizza every time I tried to make a pizza in that oven we had to call the fire department.
Speaker 5:But we were sitting there we're watching these infomercials because that's all it's on it, and this was about the time that, uh, I guess it's instapods and air fryers and all that was becoming big. So we had one, and the other officer had one, and Richie didn't have one at this time and he's like what all can you make in it? And we were like everything, literally everything, and he thought we were being just general in vain.
Speaker 3:I was asking Roby in particular. Yeah, but you know a couple of them chimed in like you can put about anything in there. Yeah literally, but I had no idea. Airfare just sounded off to me, yeah, and I'd never even heard of such. So how did we take your story?
Speaker 5:No, you're fine, Go ahead.
Speaker 3:But so I asked Roby. I was was like, what can you make in it? And he and robbie's being a smart ass, he's kind of in a bad mood too and he's like anything man. So I was like but I mean, seriously, can I mean what? What can you actually make in it? And he's like freaking everything. You know so well that his tone pissed me off. Well, the chief had done pissed me off for the day because he jumped onto us for not doing something. And I was trying to take care of them guys, I was trying to be a shield.
Speaker 4:You know how it is.
Speaker 3:So you was always taking it from the uppers and you was always taking it from the lowers too.
Speaker 5:So you was getting kind of in the middle. Yeah, that middle management sucks.
Speaker 3:And then I think I might have gotten to an argument with my kid or my wife or something that day, so I was in a pretty pissed off mood, but he smarted off to me, which was what we did every day to each other. It was nothing out of the ordinary. We always smarted off. Well, he just caught me.
Speaker 3:It was just one of those days, it was just one of those days I lose my frigging mind. I mean I'm literally calling him. Everything I can think of. I'm like he's a piece of shit, he's lost. He just lost it.
Speaker 5:It's funny we were all sitting there around the squad table and richie pops up and takes his belt off. He says you're fine let's go.
Speaker 3:I've had enough of your smart ass.
Speaker 5:But what set him off it was so funny is what set him off is Richie was a smart aleck comment. Oh yeah about the yogurt. He says well, what can you put in it? Can you make yogurt in it? Well, lo and behold, there's a yogurt setting on the Instapot. So you really can. And Roby just goes, just goes, yeah, you can.
Speaker 3:And he thought he was giving him your smart ass. You know, I'm like bullshit.
Speaker 5:You can't fry yogurt so it got to the point that we just kind of looked at each other with another officer and we just got a guy, we kind of snuck down.
Speaker 3:It was let me just put it this way, it was one of the worst debacles and displays of my entire life and I'm I feel sorry to this day, the way I talked to that man he did not deserve what I, what I did maybe not at the time you know I mean we met him, we, we had similar personalities where we would well, type eight personalities eventually
Speaker 2:yeah, and when you get called to the and I think I was supervised, me, and you probably were supervised when you and yeah, it's like you and doug and somebody else on our shit I can't remember who's that you know you have all like, how do you supervise somebody that's done it longer than you? Right, I've just been at the department longer and he had a valid point like hey, this is stupid, what are we doing? I'm like just do it, man. I'm getting that and I don't think you would realize what was coming down from.
Speaker 2:You know how much pressure they put on you no you don't Until you get that sergeant role. Yeah, and I was like man, this ain't coming for me. Well, you just got to go do it. You know like probably write tickets or mark traffic lights. Yeah, we used to have to tape on the city street lights. Oh, I remember that, and that didn't come from the chief.
Speaker 5:That came from like city council and the mayor opening and closing cemetery gates.
Speaker 2:The cemetery gates that you can walk around, yeah, and drive around it never. There's nothing worse than when you had to go open it up for somebody that got stuck in there and they're not locked they're not locked yeah, you just open them meltdowns.
Speaker 2:I've been in here for 20 minutes. Nobody's let me out. I'm like honey, do you? Even try, it's not locked yeah, but uh, oh my gosh. Yeah, you know that was somebody's pet peeve. If the gates weren't closed or open, man, they would call in on that stuff. It's fine and dandy, but when you're trying to tell people that came from different places like, hey, you gotta go shut these gates, you're like what? And then you know, so there was clashes.
Speaker 2:That happened and I think you have to have those. Hey, it's sharp, iron sharpens iron. Sometimes I think he was going to see how, how far I was going to go. I was like we'll fight. He said I ain't fighting you, I'll shoot you I'm like look, you gotta know your enemy.
Speaker 5:I can't beat this enemy that's how my philosophy always was too let's have words, get over it and then roll on.
Speaker 2:I remember the first time I don't know if I told this story on here, but I was like supervising somebody like John Whitehead, john Loving, one of the best dope finders, interviewers all around. Supervising somebody like John Whitehead, john love him, one of the best dope finders, interviewers all around, just a dude when it came to policing, but he would give supervisors absolute grief. So I get promoted. He don't even put in for it, but I get promoted. I'm like uh-oh.
Speaker 2:So the first thing I did when he was on my shift was like hey, john, let's go out and eat. So I took him to Chinatown or somewhere and I'm like, hey, let's. Uh. And I'm just honest, I was like you're smarter than me, you're ten times better cop than me. I need the money and I don't know how to police or I don't know how to supervise. But if you, if you could just cut me some slack, man, I don't want to have to write you up or do something like that. He got that big john whitehead smile. I said I got you back, buddy. Yeah. But I was like I know, I knew what I needed to do to make sure that was a good move.
Speaker 3:Respect goes a long way.
Speaker 2:That was a good move, but I did respect him and I respected everybody. There's times I probably put more people on paper than a lot of supervisors, not because I wanted to. It's just like here's what you did, here's what we're going to do, and I wasn't a jerk about it, I just didn't want to yell and scream at somebody. It's like fix your actions. I'm sure of did I write you up?
Speaker 2:okay, you were involved in one but it wasn't that I'm like warnings and then go because we've already had this conversation. I don't want to be a jerk, but well, that that's.
Speaker 5:That was the thing most of the time.
Speaker 2:If you had a good officer they knew they screwed up, yeah, so they're already beating theirself up about it so you know. So it's just we acknowledge this.
Speaker 5:Let's move forward.
Speaker 2:Roll on, you know it's just you're doing a good job otherwise, but quit that so, but I've had so many butt chewewings I remember getting called into the carpet Did you say this? Yeah, why'd you say it? Well, I meant it. You meant you was going to kill this guy. I said, well, he had my cousin DUI in the car. I said, yeah, at the time Grandma's called up here. She's mad at you.
Speaker 3:I'm like let her be mad. Sorry Okay.
Speaker 4:Tell her to scratch her butt and get glad.
Speaker 5:I never lied.
Speaker 2:A lot of times I'd come in and be like, hey, if you get a complaint saying this and that I said it, Walk out.
Speaker 3:That was me too. If I was telling a story or something, of course I'd add flavor and flash and embellish it, all the pieces. But if I was ever called in I always told the truth, because if you ever got caught well, your integrity is is all.
Speaker 5:That's all you really?
Speaker 2:got I mean you're not rich.
Speaker 3:You're not making a bunch of money.
Speaker 5:No so you're so you just got to be honest. Well, I was, I was always honest, and that didn't always no. And it was a lot of money, no, so you're. So you just got to be honest. When I was, I was always honest, and that didn't always no and it was a lot of times it gets you in trouble. Yeah, yeah, and I was actually careful, like do you really want my opinion, do you?
Speaker 3:really want it. I'll give it to you that towards the end of my career, it's where I'd have to give the caveat, do you really?
Speaker 5:want my opinion, or do you gladly give it to you? Yeah, you're not going to like it. Your feelings are going to be hurt afterwards.
Speaker 2:As well. Now, when you're I guess you know, as an administrator, sometimes you just didn't have time or budget didn't allow you to hear all the complaints You're like, yeah, you've made that point, I don't have that in the budget to do. We are sorry, but if you can explain that and I think we're getting to the wise and helping officers understand clarity- yeah, that's a little transparency, a little clarity flash's generation was different than mine you know, meaning me and you were growing.
Speaker 3:when we come up to the police, police rank, it was because I said so type of mentality. Why are we doing this? Because I said so. Why are we doing this? Because I want you to. That generation wanted to know why it's fair. It used to drive me crazy because I wanted to always say because I freaking, said so, that's why. But once I noticed with third generation, once you told them why, 95% of the time they're like, oh okay, everything's good.
Speaker 5:That blind leader, blind following, kind of ended, it ended, and that's smart.
Speaker 2:on third generation Gen X, after that millennials come along. That ended, yeah, that was smart.
Speaker 5:Now as I said there was a few people that would be like because I want you to.
Speaker 2:Okay, I mean that's all you did, but yeah, but it's so much easier if I give you.
Speaker 5:But that was a respect thing.
Speaker 2:It was not a. If I give you the why, you'll buy into it Exactly.
Speaker 3:And they nine times out of ten did and.
Speaker 5:I learned that pretty quick. I was like when quick.
Speaker 4:When I'm dealing with those guys.
Speaker 3:I'll just tell them why we're doing it.
Speaker 2:Even if we didn't know the why it came down from hires, we were still going to make up some why.
Speaker 5:That's probably true. That was fine. I don't know why, but it came down from above. I don't like it.
Speaker 4:I heard that a lot.
Speaker 5:I don't like it. It's stupid. We're going to do it If we don gonna do it, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, if we don't do it, jesus is gonna come back, yeah okay, okay, as long as there's a lot.
Speaker 2:I don't know what else you got for us. You got any more good ones willing? How much time?
Speaker 5:we got we got plenty of time.
Speaker 2:Of course I'm gonna have to go over here and go to pay again.
Speaker 3:No bladder of course it's almost 12, so I'll tell one more. All right, one more, and then we'll, we'll come up and then I'll have. Uh, I've, I've got a hundred of them, but oh, we'll do a part two, yeah let's see um what are we at in time?
Speaker 5:130 oh yeah we're good that we're still that's what our average is, yeah I've got a lot of people that are saying they want longer.
Speaker 2:So I mean Really yeah, but we can do a part two.
Speaker 5:An hour, hour and a half, that's long enough for.
Speaker 3:A bunch of idiots. Yeah Well, the one we were talking about. I've got a couple more written down and, as we're talking about this, other things are coming to me. I'll tell you another good one. When I first started, I got a good one.
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Speaker 3:Okay, who knows how long he'll be in there well, he was talking about new people and and how some, some of the older folks had different views on things and not knowing your surroundings and that you know, so I come up to the sheriff's department so I don't even know what. 25e is or 192.
Speaker 3:I don't even know the main roads. So I go to the this is like the second day and we go and it's a weekend and there was these guys, older guys there named, and their nickname was Colonel and the other ones was Sarge, so and I don't know that. I know one of them's not living any longer, but the other one I think still is, but I thought that was their rank right, so I didn't know that that was their nickname at the time. So so we get, we go to this call and they, they're, they're part-timers, yeah, they're not even not even academy certified I don't even, I remember, I don't even I don't even.
Speaker 3:I didn't even know that at the time. I'm thinking that I'm working the street with a colonel and a sergeant. So I show up at this call and this old lady is like they're smoking the marijuana in there. I want something done. That's literally. I mean you can smell it. But it was not enough to kick down doors and take 14 people to jail because there's a bunch of people in this house and so I'm explaining to her. I'm like man, I can't just kick their door in. I've knocked on it, they're not going to come. I can't just kick their door open and do that. Well, the colonel and the serge pulls in at this time. So I'm thinking that this is their rank.
Speaker 3:Yeah, once again let me just reiterate that because I'm telling you why here in just a second, and so I'm like we can't do nothing. And they're old school At this time. They're used to seeing what used to happen before the laws changed. Yeah, they're smoking marijuana in there. Kick the door in, go in there and arrest every damn one of them. I was like, are you sure? And they're like, yeah, do it. But they were just messing with me. I mean, this is like day two on the job. Yeah, up here, and I don't know these people.
Speaker 3:So I'm like okay, up here and I don't know these people. So I'm like okay. So I mean I go in there and I'm like kick the door in, like get on the ground. I'm putting people on the ground. I mean I end up arresting like 14 people literally for like two marijuana jobs.
Speaker 3:So when I get back to the sheriff's office and I start telling them this story and they're like why would you do what they tell you to do? I was like, well, well, fricky, one guy's a colonel. I was like I'm just a deputy. He's like he's. He's like third command around here. He's like he ain't even a full-time officer, much less. I'm like, oh, I saw, I turned green immediately, I'm oh my god, I've literally violated 14 people's civil rights. I'm in so much trouble that's so funny.
Speaker 5:I don't feel like you're doing your job right if you've not checked the local paper to see if you've made it. I didn't like it.
Speaker 2:I don't like being in the news. It was awful man we've seen some funny stuff.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you I could go on, for we'll have to have a part two of this one.
Speaker 5:This will be, like doug's, what we may have to get you on with with another, with roe beer or some of the other guys that we ran with on that, or g or that's fine with me.
Speaker 3:That way we can bounce stories off of each other. I've still probably got 10 of just my own that I've just thought of since sitting here.
Speaker 2:We'll do it again, yeah, we'll add yeah, that's the cool thing about this we get off on our own little stories, but there's always next time exactly, and I think of more.
Speaker 5:I've got a bunch wrote down too, but I keep thinking of more. It's wouldn't dog another one, and well you know they do, they do, I think but we'll cut it off here and then, uh, we'll catch up in a part two sometime later down the road. But uh, it's a good happening I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 3:It's good to see you.
Speaker 2:It's been a while and it's kind of like therapy. It's uh, it's good to get the old crew back together. It's been really fun it has our plan is to do like a live or an old liars club it's all recording funny stuff and cutting on each other so that's going to be one of the goals to do this in the next couple months or something once we get a studio set up we hey, we may.
Speaker 3:We may be sponsored by depends here, surely?
Speaker 5:or we may get a cease and desist letter you never know, we may get a gag listen, I wish I was wearing one.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't.
Speaker 5:I wouldn't have got up we may start a new line of depends.
Speaker 3:Then you guys are running.
Speaker 2:It depends.
Speaker 3:Would you shut up? Quit talking about it.
Speaker 2:Listen, I could, I don't know. Like I said, I just got to go, I got to go, I can't hold it no more.
Speaker 3:Well, I've got a wife, so I understand it. I'm like an old woman. You're like a woman Can't hold it.
Speaker 2:All right, we'll see you all next time. Yep, all right, see you Thanks.