Jest Out of Jurisdiction
Law Enforcement / First Responder stories and experiences with a focus on comedic blunders, events, and the lighter side of stressful jobs. Stories are firsthand accounts told by the hosts Flash and T-Dot with accompanying guest interviews.
Jest Out of Jurisdiction
Dare, Deuces, and Demolition Derby.
Join us as we paint a vivid picture of our early days, marked by foot pursuits, festival mishaps, and the chaos of night shift antics. The camaraderie we formed during our National Guard deployments to Germany and Belgium provided a foundation for the enduring bonds we share in law enforcement. Whether it's chasing a bear through town or chasing down a run-away golf cart at a festival, these wild tales highlight the lighter side of police work, proving there's never a dull moment on the force.
Blue lights from the dead of the night, lying on a runny, dim street light, laughing through the written reports. True, stranger than the wildest courts. Tales from the force gone astray, caught up in the games they play High speed chases gone awry, serious turns in the pie in the sky, just out of jurisdiction.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's good stuff, go ahead there, man, welcome back.
Speaker 3:Another episode for you. We've got another guest for you here. We've got Danny Robinson with us. Hello, he's another survivor of this area's policing industry. Retiree, retiree, made it all the way through Another one of my FTOs. Actually, I think by the time I got to Danny, I kind of knew what we was doing and kind of got the okay, he's laughing about that, you didn't have a clue what he was doing, did you?
Speaker 4:No None of us did.
Speaker 2:No, even the traders didn't know what we was doing.
Speaker 3:But I will say that Danny's FTO philosophy was probably one of the better ones. Everybody up until that point was kind of aside from Richie was okay, this is the way we're going to do it. There's no other way, you're not going to, and if you do it any other way, you're wrong. Danny's was kind of like everybody is a different way. You find the way that you do it, as long as you're not doing it to get you indicted or in trouble. You're, you're good, so so that's, you start learning that way. You can't go by a strict guideline on that, but uh, yeah, I think I think t-dot's known danny a lot longer so yeah, we've known each other since probably elementary or at least middle school?
Speaker 4:Did you go to East?
Speaker 2:Bernstead together.
Speaker 4:He was just in a different class.
Speaker 2:I was in.
Speaker 4:Miss Reed, he was in, whatever that was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we've elementary school, kind of like Gary. I moved from that side and went to East Bernstead, so we went middle school just knew each other. We didn't really run the same circles all the time but we always liked Danny Good dude. Also, we were in the guard together he went to Germany while I went to Belgium, he went to Germany while I went to Belgium, so we didn't get to work guard shacks together.
Speaker 3:How many sandbags did you molest over there?
Speaker 2:I peed in, that. I did not molest it.
Speaker 3:None, I peed around the shopping center a lot.
Speaker 2:We're getting our quota of pee story right now. Well, I got a verse in P-Story and we'll get to that, Because Danny and I were hired at the same time and we were roommates in the police academy. Now, the first time we go up to do our pops, he picks me up in this Ford Probe or something. What was that? It was purple. If you look at it one way, it was purple the other way it was green, dodge, avenger, dodge, avenger.
Speaker 2:And we rode up together to Richmond to do our POPs test and we just did everything together there, ran, we lost track of time, we were just kind of just talking and it was like man, I can't believe we were so fired up. We was in pretty good shape because we was right out of the Army Right out of the military. So we was running and we looked down. We was like oh my gosh, we better pick up our pace here we're going to fail.
Speaker 4:We got to hurry.
Speaker 3:Y'all were on a leisurely jog.
Speaker 2:I think we passed it, probably a minute or so. Oh yeah, we did that in Final Pops too. He was up in front of me and I caught up with him. We started at different positions so I caught up with him. We ran the whole time together, or he caught up with me and he ended. I was like, oh no, Dang, I've got to keep going. Yeah, but we enjoyed it and I'm pretty sure, did you go to the hospital while he was in the academy?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that was a funny story. Yeah, tell me about that. So we were running the mulch track, the old mulch track.
Speaker 2:Was it wintertime? Are you the?
Speaker 3:reason that we weren't allowed to run the mulch track anymore.
Speaker 4:I don't know. That's a possibility. I know many people that's got mulch track bid or something. But we was, we was just running doing our normal thing and I started getting a pain in my side. This is more than a stitch. I just collapsed, and Mr Hughes was our DT instructor at that time. Great dude, great dude, he come over and he's like you know, he's always yelling at me for something. That's just how it went at the academy. I was always getting yelled at for something. He wasn't.
Speaker 4:It went at the academy I was always getting yelled at for something. He wasn't as much as me, but I was always getting yelled at. He was a follow me everywhere I go, but anyways, I collapsed. He come over there, he's yelling at me, everybody's laughing, kind of making fun of me and I'm like no it really hurts. It really hurts. Something's happening. He's got a really bad shit pain or something it was worse.
Speaker 4:So they sent me up and they had to. I don't even remember who I seen at the academy Next thing you know I can't remember if it was you or Mr Hughes Somebody took me to the hospital. No, I didn't. I wasn't allowed to.
Speaker 4:I don't remember who it was Took me to the hospital and they admitted me and they did nothing. They did nothing. They did nothing. They took some blood and did nothing. I stayed on the gurn on that little bed, just in the fetal position all night. Next morning there's nothing wrong with you they sent me back. So I went back to the academy and our uh advisor or class coordinator won't mention any names he's, he's no longer with us, but he didn't like me at all yeah, that weather's really.
Speaker 4:We'll get into those reasons he did not like me at all, but he he tried to fail me over that really I didn't know that. Tried to fail me, said he, they're gonna kick me out, send me home.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 4:Yes, send a letter to the department. They called Elijah's chief then and he went off on them. They were going to fail me because I missed almost all day's work. They said I wasn't going to make it up. I said I couldn't.
Speaker 2:I was like they didn't give me any restrictions. Well, that's weird because you remember when I missed a couple days because I was getting ready, I got put on like a stop loss. Seriously, we were February, the, it was Valentine's Day Me and you stopped at the Walmart in Berea on our way home, got our spouses. Final phase yeah, this is February. We graduated March 15th. We were one month away. We were starting our fourth third phase, fourth phase, whatever they call it. We put on the gold epaulets. I remember we were the top dogs in the academy class.
Speaker 2:So I get a phone call and it's like the Rams are running or something. I don't know what they're talking about. I was like huh, that was like a code Like hey, you report to, so I'm calling. They were like are you sitting down? I was like no, I'm not sitting down. What is going on? They're like you're getting, you're getting we just had come home. They're like you know, I think Iraq was getting ready to kick off. They were like you're right. So I had, I had my like all these license, all the vehicle recovery, all this stuff from the Marines and they knew my MOS, besides the infantry, I had this.
Speaker 3:And they were like and they can pull you for so many years after you come out right? I guess I was pretty bad.
Speaker 2:What's weird my final commitment date eight years of military service was March 8th. We're talking about February the 15th, so I only had to March 8th and I was out of the military for good. I've completed my service system and you was getting ready to get pulled, yes. Not to mention, we were about to graduate the academy. They sent him orders yeah.
Speaker 2:I had orders, sent Military orders to deploy. Listen, I've never been more sick in my life. It was hilarious. I was like going in to. I went in and saw like the lodge, and I was like going in to I went in and saw like the lodge and them I was like, yeah, I'm getting deployed. I don't even know you people, but I'm getting deployed again. They're like what I was like I got orders to report to. I got to go to Richmond. They're sending me to Paducah and I think they're going to send us to Saudi Arabia or something.
Speaker 2:I'm like I don't know what's going on Saudi Arabia or something. I'm like I don't know what's going on. I'm like panic mode and so I call the coordinator, tell him what's up. He's like you just be with your family right now, because I had to report, like on Wednesday, and we had to be back in the dorms on Sunday night. So I was like, oh my gosh, what is going on?
Speaker 2:So I made some phone calls trying to anybody. I was calling every politician I knew, which was nobody but one great guy, albert Robinson. He just went on to be with the Lord. He was a great dude. They were in session because of the time of year and I was like I went to church with him. He was like, yeah, I'll get with you Tuesday, I'll go talk to the house. I went and seen everybody else in between just not trusting that it could get done. And I told him and they were like that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Why would they be? They just got home like six months ago. That's stupid. So they canceled the whole dang mission apparently and I called another guy that got pulled too and he was so mad at me. He said, man, that was going to be good money. I was like I didn't want to, I just want to be a policeman man.
Speaker 2:I don't want the money. I got 15 days and I'm completely out of the military.
Speaker 1:I was like and.
Speaker 2:I'd already been deployed with National Guard and I was not real sure what was going to happen. I was not real sure what was going to happen. I'm like I'm definitely going to die if it's war, it's like. Belgium was close.
Speaker 4:This is bad. National Guard, inactive duty is nothing alike, however what they did.
Speaker 2:You know, when I called the coordinator he was like man, you just beat your family. So I did. When I came back I was like hey, they let me back in. I called him so I come, come in Danny's. Like who are you in here? I'm back, baby. I've never done so much homework in my life. For the next, I had to write a bit papers on resting heart rate five pages. I was like I don't know how I can do that.
Speaker 2:I wish Chippy T would have been around back, then I'd have been alright, but I really made the greatest score I've ever made in that because I actually buckled down and worked hard, so Danny and I. So I had a different experience with him. He liked me. I must have tried hard.
Speaker 4:I don't know, ever since day one, he did not like me.
Speaker 2:It's probably because he was over there chuckling at him. I was yeah, I was, Danny in legal class would be over there and be like hey.
Speaker 4:If it wouldn't have been for Travis, if it wouldn't have been for him, I would have not graduated Well, our study habits were really fun.
Speaker 2:Danny would listen as I would read them and he would answer questions. That's what we did. We didn't study real hard, but we just went over everything every day we did a lot of like flash card stuff we didn't do that we just read it and then he would answer the questions. And that was it now we both had really good grade. We didn't. We weren't honor grads or nothing, but there was a we were never going to be honor grads.
Speaker 3:There was a pretty good tradition, by the time we got up there, that the graduating class handed off all their notes from their adjutant to our adjutant.
Speaker 4:We started a very good tradition too, getting PBT'd every night.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4:I appreciate that that was us.
Speaker 3:Somebody started a tradition that we weren't even allowed to go to Hooters anymore.
Speaker 2:That wasn't us, was it I didn't go?
Speaker 3:No, I don't think, because you all weren't even allowed to go to Hooters anymore.
Speaker 2:That wasn't us, was it? I didn't go? No, I don't think, because you all weren't that dumb. No, somebody went to.
Speaker 3:Hooters in their academy uniform.
Speaker 1:No that wasn't us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it caused a hold, so they were like don't even go. Did you all go to the college and eat Some?
Speaker 4:I figured we would have got kicked out of that.
Speaker 1:I mean of that. I mean it was a buffet. So yeah, it was a buffet. Yeah, it was. We're talking about food. Yes, damy, we're talking about food so we so.
Speaker 2:So some of the things that happened, all right. So so day I'm going to say day two, day three or the next week we brought a TV in, so we report by the next week. We brought some old TV in Sometime during that week. Yeah, we bring our computer in, do our homework, we do. You know, we try to make it as homey as we can because we're there five nights, you know, five days a week. We try to make it as homey as we can because we're there five nights, you know, five days a week. So somebody me or you one leaned back in one of them wooden chairs. It was me and it cracked Pop. We thought we were brand new. Hey, we were the first academy class to sleep in those dorms. I mean, we weren't the first one, the dorms, but that room.
Speaker 3:With the wooden desks.
Speaker 2:We were peeling plastic off stuff.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we were the first ones in that section of the dorm.
Speaker 2:So we were peeling plastic off mattresses and stuff and we went up and bought, you know, egg crates, our mattresses, came out of jail? I think they weren't great, but they were brand new. We knew we wouldn't go get bed bugs or something or cooties or lice.
Speaker 4:We just had the military training and bought polypr pros and stuff like that stick under our mattresses.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were. We knew how to make ourselves pretty comfortable in this we learned, I mean? I mean, the first thing we did was went to walmart and bought egg crates and and just brought our own stuff. There's nothing more comfortable than a poncho liner to sleep under yeah, but it was the first week.
Speaker 4:it was a square chairs, that's wood, I mean they didn't have legs.
Speaker 2:They were heavy.
Speaker 4:They didn't have legs, but it was like all one piece made into a leg. You probably remember.
Speaker 2:And they had like a back, like a round back, and they went up to you know, and we leaned back Just a little bit and then pop crack.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's no give to those.
Speaker 4:Well, we didn't tell anybody, you couldn't see it.
Speaker 2:No but if you used it, you were going to fall backwards and break them. So we put our TV in it, yeah, and never thought about it again until that red-haired dude Week 15. Yeah, this guy comes up and said if you've got any broken equipment in your rooms, you need to tell us right now and it'll be okay. So I start panicking. I'm like golly.
Speaker 4:I had to panic so much. It was hilarious.
Speaker 2:I was like we got to go tell on ourselves on this broken chair. It was his chair, he did it, but I took it up there and said, hey, we got a broken chair. They were like thank you, thanks for showing us. Well, I, we're, we're practicing graduation, like doing the walk across and here's where you stand, here's where you sit and all that stuff I get. I get a call from the, from the head coordinator over training don't know who it was, though I remember his name I think it's miller's his last name, but anyway he brings me in there.
Speaker 2:He says is your own standby for graduation. I'm like what. I was like what, sir, let's look over this broken chair. We're launching a full-blown investigation on it. And I'm like Danny runs and that was the story of our career. But I was like you got me, leave it to Davey.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:I mean I was like we've run final pops, we've run all this final stuff. You have to do Final tests, all the things you have to do, and we're like and I'm on standby. Apparently they called Lodge. On that one too they did. There's two times on Lodge. I know of four, but number three is the worst one. One was there was some trash left in the dumpster, but number three was a really bad number two.
Speaker 4:Alright so you know when you're there in between classes you don't get a whole lot of time. No Five ten minutes maybe when you're up early and you eat breakfast and you work out and you get stuff in your belly, you've got to go, yeah. So we had just a little bit of time and I was like I've got to go, so I went to the room.
Speaker 2:He was actually awake in class.
Speaker 4:This time I was actually awake, I knew something was up because he was like but I went to the room and I did my business and you know, because some, you know, just sometimes you don't have time to clean everything like spotless with a toothbrush or nothing. But it wasn't dirty, it was just straight used bathroom I disagree, but we'll get to that in a second he comes back to the go ahead danny because so I hear your side
Speaker 4:and I was just like um well, bathroom's a little dirty what he really said was I think we're rode up.
Speaker 2:Oh no, what had happened after he used the bathroom? When he opens the door, they're there to do a room check.
Speaker 4:They're doing an inspection in our room after I just left and remind you there was no Febreze, there was no Glade plug-ins or anything like that.
Speaker 2:And it was a good one. He comes back in the. I'm sitting there, he comes back, he's sweating, he's like we're rode up. I was like oh no, why what happened? You know, because we Swirly mercs, no man. Swirly mercs, no man. He just had one of those dub and dubbers he had to go. It was on the back of the walls, it was bad. It was on the shower curtain. It was everywhere. I was like, oh my God, we are grown up. It was everywhere but the toilet.
Speaker 4:It was like splatter day. I don't know how. There's just a little bit of water in there, but when the light hits really quick, it splashes.
Speaker 2:I think he was still butt up when he started launching they called Lodge on that one.
Speaker 2:When Lodge later he was like listen, he said you and Dan Robinson, lodge. Later he was like listen, he said you and Dane Robinson. This was later, you know, when he got to actually talk to us and know us. He got to know us Because at first, you know, he had no, you know he had no conversation with the chief. There was no reason to. But when he started going to church with me, I took him and we went up to a baseball game together and he was like you and Danny Robinson got more phone calls. I got more phone calls from you two in the police academy than I have, and that's 17 years I've been police chief at this place. I was like they were all Danny.
Speaker 4:Well, he probably agreed with that because it actually started before the academy. Yeah, let's tell that story. So before the you know, you have to go up and do your psychological, your pops and all that. And I've you know military past, psych past pops past.
Speaker 2:You means you just are consistent. Well, we tell them the same thing. Yes, not that you're not crazy.
Speaker 4:well, well, so did all that and I'm getting, we're headed back home after doing all that and I get a phone call from a sergeant at the pd who is still working, just not at the police department with somebody else. He calls and he begins to yell at me on the phone and I'm like whoa dude, what's going on? He's like I don't know what you told them he said, but they're not recommending you. I'm like I don't know, then I'll tell about the other one. There's two, there's another one before that. So he's yelling at me Take him home, go to the PD, he's there there. He's yelling at me some more and I'm like dude, I don't know what to tell you. I've not done anything. I've. Well, I've been in trouble, but nothing's on paper, right, you know? And they had the, they said lodge spent like an hour and a half on the phone with the people to tell them to push me through because we needed people so bad.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's the story. I've ever heard that.
Speaker 4:No, and not many people have the story I was thinking of. The one you're thinking of is so we do the test. You take the test. Back when we applied, we did it at North Oral High School. There was no sitting room, man, it's packed.
Speaker 2:It's so packed, you know there's four spots in there, but if there wasn't a hundred people in there, there wasn't five. It was crazy it was crazy.
Speaker 4:You know it was my fourth time taking it, did all that and then they start your background investigation, right, you don't hear nothing, you just give them everything and then they tell you when your report date is, and all that. So it was a Friday evening, it was about 3.30, and another sergeant, a friend of mine. He called me and it was not a very polite phone call, it was another. What did you do? Yelling at me, said a few choice words and told me to get my hind end to the police department. So I get there. It's 3.30, 3.45.
Speaker 2:Okay, we report that next Monday, that Sunday we were going to the academy.
Speaker 4:Was this on a Thursday or Friday. This was a Friday evening. We had to report to the academy on November 16th, which was a Sunday. It was so, they asked me. They was like you ever been in trouble.
Speaker 2:I was like yeah, but I'm sitting in there too. Yeah, I'm like I've had a few tickets.
Speaker 4:Do you remember this ticket on blah, blah, blah? And I was like, yeah, I sure do. I remember that, because that was a trooper that I know real well. We was in the guard together and it was on one of them FOT days for him and I had a black Mitsubishi Eclipse and I was coming from my grandparents and I was letting them scream. So he pulled me over, wrote me a ticket, smacked me on the head, threw it in the car and said get that handled. So I got it handled. I thought oh no.
Speaker 4:That guy I give it to said it was taken care of or handled. Sorry, handled, don't worry about it. He said you get one. I'm like, well, that's one times four, but thank you, he didn't remember, thank God. So they're yelling at me. This is about 3, 45, 350 ish. I was with the major at that time who was supposed to be doing my background. I think he did, but kind of didn't. Maybe I don't know. But anyways, I had an active bench warrant oh no for my arrest and the clerk's office closed at 4 pm. So I have to leave the pm. I'm talking, I have minutes to spare To get over there and pay that, to get over there and pay it. Thankfully I caught Mr Schott when he was there, a clerk, and he laughed and laughed. I thought he was going to laugh so hard that he was going to have a heart attack before I could pay it. Got that paid. So our shenanigans are.
Speaker 2:It was before the academy. I was like I'm going with a wanted man here. This guy.
Speaker 4:Remember the range, yeah. So, we were heading up.
Speaker 2:The range was down at the river. Yeah, on the Boonesboro exit, so we're going up there. It was cold.
Speaker 1:It's always cold, but not slick. But it was just cold, it was just cold.
Speaker 2:And we're heading up to that exit riding in our 1995.
Speaker 4:It's a 95 Crown Vic solid white. It's a parking enforcement car.
Speaker 3:I bet it would fly. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I never drove. He was the driver Saying that. He yeah, we rear-ended another officer.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so we're getting off the exit and one of our classmates you know everybody drove their own cars. Most people didn't carpool or bridy. We just you know, me and him did this. We only had one car until graduation or a couple weeks before, and I'm not saying I'm the best driver in the world. I have learned a few things over the years you know, paying attention is not one of my strong suits.
Speaker 4:No, we've seen that. So we get off the exit and people they'll stop and then they'll move just a little bit and then they'll stop again.
Speaker 3:They hesitate, they hesitate.
Speaker 4:So I didn't know. He hesitated. I thought he went and I plowed right into the back of him.
Speaker 2:Luckily there was no damage. Well, those cars were built like tanks. Oh, they were great still.
Speaker 4:So we get out vehicle ever made he's freaking out because he's from a northern kentucky agency who pays really well and he's freaking out. T-doc's freaking out, I'm not, I'm just laughing. Yeah, because you know my response to everything what do we do what?
Speaker 2:do what do we do? Do we call the police?
Speaker 4:I'm like eh, eh, wipe it off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're good and keep going. I mean his head whoop. I was like daddy, what have?
Speaker 4:you done? Yeah, we got more rec stories we'll tell later yeah.
Speaker 2:So we make it out. I guess we did well. We graduated by the skin of our teeth, but we made it physically we did really well. We made fit for duty and all that yeah both of us were on like the honor guard thing. I don't know if you did the flag detail yeah, I did the flag detail with you we had fun. It was a great experience. We used to run. They would let us run off campus for a while. We'd run down to the hospital and back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, none of that. Ours was not a fun experience.
Speaker 2:I think we ended that, so that was our fault. They were just building that new awesome gym.
Speaker 4:We didn't get it until like week 14.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were one of the first classes to actually do our PT test on the new track inside. So it was real weird.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all our PT and stuff was inside, and then we had the glass room. Now, the glass room was fun. Now I don't know, I won't talk about who- our instructor was.
Speaker 2:That's where we did dt yeah, we didn't do much, so we did some dt in there and I remember I was. I went up against a pretty good fighter. All them guys could fight, so I'm doing the. His name is Dotson as well. He's a great dude. I did my thing. I was like, yeah, you pass. I was like, man, I'm scared to death about that fist fight, his baton fight. Danny goes out and we're watching him. Danny starts doing some taquack do's. I don't know what he was doing.
Speaker 4:I've learned a few things over the years. I've studied some different things.
Speaker 2:He's learned how to get his ass real.
Speaker 4:I thought you could incorporate just about anything into it. In Red man, I was looking for a fight, not this hoolied. Whatever they would hit you, we weren't allowed to hit them. They told us we weren't allowed to punch them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you couldn't punch them. We were supposed to be the taunts, you just had the pool noodle.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we had that foam pool noodle. So me, I hold it back on my head, like you're supposed to, and I twirl it.
Speaker 2:Twirls it like a bow staff or something.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because I've done some bow stuff. I did, but I was just having fun. I'm a little cocky, I can't help it, really cocky. But it was Lindsey Hughes. Again he liked me, but he made it rough on me Very made it rough on me, very, made it rough on me. So I twirled it and had my hand up and he said something and I didn't really pay attention to what he said and he told me to go to striking.
Speaker 2:So I twirled it again and he popped me square in the face. His baton went flying. He was like a helicopter.
Speaker 3:And then when it hits, hits when he blows your equipment daddy's trying to run back to it to get it because I can't do nothing else they won't let him, like, go into fist fight.
Speaker 4:You know, I would have just normally I'd have just tackled ember yeah, done a roundhouse or something like that, because back then I could. I can't do none of that now. It was funny.
Speaker 1:It was hilarious.
Speaker 4:He destroyed me and I couldn't help it Every time I'd pick up that baton twirl. And every time he would make me eat my lunch.
Speaker 3:Was Jumper up there at that point in time.
Speaker 4:We were his Jumper when he went to the academy. He didn't work the road long. He left like within a year's time and then went to the.
Speaker 2:He was training under hughes when we came in. Yes, and then he took his own class about two weeks later after the next class came in, he, he took his own class, but, man, he taught me how to like do a vertical jump. Back then you had to do the. I was like, I went from like barely passing, even though I was like to. I was like huh, that guy's like 30 vertical and like one. I was like man, I can get up there, I can dunk.
Speaker 3:We'd get done with, like, our ptdt lesson and still have a few minutes, and he'd get down on the floor and you're like, all right, let's roll. And just he would twist you up in a pretzel so quick.
Speaker 2:I've had some classes since, like DT instructor classes and things.
Speaker 3:Just the stuff he did.
Speaker 2:He's so quick, but he was a monster he still is. But he's like Lean. Yeah, he was a monstrosity of a person. He was super fast. Yeah, he was big into like the A little bit of guy.
Speaker 4:A little bit of guy. A little bit of guy. He's only like five, eight, five, nine.
Speaker 3:He's shorter than me, so he's probably like five, six. Yeah, he's short, I'm like I'm five, seven, but he's, he's a great instructor too man. He was my red man and he was and I won't say that he wasn't like the others. The others were like out for blood to make you look like an idiot. He wanted you to learn, but you paid for your mistakes too, he hit me four times before I even knew the fight started.
Speaker 2:I mean, it was just, I was like you remember that park guy the greatest the legend Weber? Oh man, what was his first name? I don't remember. Great guy the greatest the legend Weber, oh man.
Speaker 4:What was his first name? I don't remember.
Speaker 2:I just remember Great guy they named the built Jim after him. Yeah, he's passed away. Since I mean one heck of a dude and he was the greatest fighter they would do like, hey, you're going to be in the, mr Weber has just shoplifted, you two have to go arrest him. Nobody wanted to do it, man, because you was getting ready to get whipped or without it. But if you did the right, like hey, sir, can you turn around? And did all the proper techniques on arresting somebody, he was complying.
Speaker 2:It was just his turn to be the bad guy. Oh my gosh, everybody's scared to death that he's going to thump us. Because right before that he was remember the guy from the park service. We were practicing the baton striking and he kept hitting. It would glance like he was going back and he was hitting Weber right in the face. It wasn't hurting him, but he was like, sir, the next time you hit me in the face there will be repercussions. And we went and picked him up at the hospital with the greatest black eye on our academy, on our academy pitchers. I think his name was Noble, I can't't remember, but he had the greatest teardrop black eye man, swelled him shut. He gave him a warning. Everybody hit him three times, though now there was.
Speaker 3:there was some guys that came into the ptdt there and at the end or in the middle kind of of our. It was pretty rough, especially on the females that were in our class and we had some tough females, but they was one that he de-cleated her with an uppercut. Oh gosh, I mean it had to call the ambulance and everything.
Speaker 2:Oh no, it's tough man.
Speaker 3:We had some females that didn't need to be there either. We had one that couldn't shoot over a 40 on the qualification.
Speaker 2:It was like a shotgun target. You remember in classes you're not supposed to have recording devices. In there we had a guy his recording device. He accidentally hit play and started oh my gosh, oh my gosh. It was awful If anything bad could happen in our academy class.
Speaker 4:it did, it happened and we were just like what, and usually it was me somewhere involved and him laughing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we had a good time. We graduated, we get out of there. And, one of the greatest, we hadn't been out long and it was Halloween, our first year or second year, I can't remember exactly the foot pursuit in Walmart.
Speaker 4:Oh, that was our well. Technically it was my first real. I had another foot pursuit before then, but it didn't last nothing like that. That was like our second year.
Speaker 2:So, listen, we answer a second shift, call together Trespasser at Walmart, back towards Tire Loop. We get back there and this guy, we see him, he sees us, he starts slipping around. I'm like hmm, so Danny goes to cut him off and I look around, the guy's gone and Danny's whoa, whoa, whoa. He's after him, he's on him. So I'm like huh. So I get on the radio like Foot Pursuit, walmart. But it's probably like blah, blah, blah, blah, because people are like 824, what did you say? I'm like 5% Walmart, me and Danny.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, it never comes out in the moment the way it went. I thought it sounded good, but I couldn't do it, I was he couldn't.
Speaker 2:So there was. There was old women flying through the air like this dude was bowling over her, over people. They get you know the doors like stop you know the doors like stop you know closed and waiting on that. I'm trotting because Danny's like he is in hot pursuit. He is like yeah.
Speaker 2:I get outside Danny's got. He's down in the in the second area with his hands on his knees. I said where's he at, where's he at? And just across the parking, like maybe yards, the guy's looking at us and he's got his hands on his knees.
Speaker 2:So I started taking off after he gets his second wind and we run away or, you know, into the fields. But that place has developed a little bit more now. Well, we stopped twice. Yeah, there was more stopping. We stopped over there, like close to Sh and, yeah, that, that strip mall over there we're. You know, at this time I'm tired because, yeah, we've ran this whole quarter, quarter mile, but we were running, I mean, we was dodging traffic. So we get over there and we're like, oh my gosh, we finally he goes in this wheat, in this briar thicket, and I'm like, oh, I'm not going in, going in there. And he knew it. And I'm like, come out of there. And he's like, no, you come get me. That's what he said. I was like, no, you come up to me. And he took off again and Danny met him and that was it, and it was a I don't know exactly what happened?
Speaker 4:Well, we won't talk about what happened in the thicket. We got back up, we're walking up the hill and I don't know whose car he gets put in and Eric Wilkerson was riding.
Speaker 2:He was riding.
Speaker 4:At that time he hadn't been hired, he was riding, he was with the major and when he got out of the car he walked around the car a minute and his car was probably I don't know five foot in front of me. Well, I barfed. And I mean everything I had that day just up. It was horrible. I mean, we run hard, it was a sprint and it was physical.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm going to say that's a long sprint, and then the fight at the end of it, and then the little fight at the end of it.
Speaker 2:And plus adrenaline.
Speaker 4:Counseling, he got some counseling.
Speaker 2:He fought us.
Speaker 4:I mean, he was trying he had a little circle tattoo on his forehead, the old backhand ring, huh. And then so I get up the hill, I'm huffing and puffing and I barf. Well, like I said, Eric was riding, he wasn't paying attention. He walked right through it and then got back in the major's car, oh no. So when we all got done, we all went back to the PD, which Eric wasn't hired. Then he got out and the major kept asking what's that smell? What's that smell? It took him like two days to figure out that Eric had walked through my bar from lifting his glass.
Speaker 3:I never got around to doing it, but we done it. When I was at FedEx we had this sulfur candle oh gross, and we would cut little chunks of it off. And, like the drivers that we had this sulfur candle oh gross, and we would cut little chunks of it off and the drivers that we had pretty good working relationships with, we'd go and stick it on top of their engine block. Oh, of course, While it was loaded up, so when they got out on the road it would blow. Oh man.
Speaker 3:That was one of the great, because you'd never figure out where that smell was coming from Tim Smallwood.
Speaker 2:I told that one.
Speaker 3:In. I told that one In the bathroom.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh, he was notorious about that. Notorious. See, I figured that was Hump. No, it was Tim. He nailed it. He got us Hump, wouldn't do that to us. He loved us. Now, tim was just, he was just quiet about it.
Speaker 3:Pranks were always fun over at the PD. It may have been during COVID, I can't remember, and nobody ever said anything about it, so I don't know what the results were of it. But every night where we had all those pool cars sitting in the back and it snowed, I took my boots off and I put them on the hood and made boot prints. And then I went and got a Snickers bar out of the thing and melted it and stuck it on the hood and I never heard a word. I figured they'd I melted it and stuck it on the left and I never heard a word.
Speaker 2:I figured they'd be a full-blown investigation over that Me and Zanet and John Sloan were roommates in Belgium and our neighbors. Across the hall there's some guys that I think they work at the Bureau of Prisons now. Two of them do, I'm not sure about the other, but we would go in there and we were in Belgium and they had all these nice little cheese shops and wine shops and beer. You could buy beer back then out of vending machines, like at train stations. It was really crazy, but we would buy some of that really stinky cheese, man, and plant it around in their room, right. And finally, you know, they figured out and get mad. Well, somebody took that cheese and smeared it in their hat and we wore those stinking berets back then and smeared it in somebody's underneath their beret right there and there was near fisticuffs happening on that.
Speaker 3:I can imagine. Oh, I got stories.
Speaker 2:I've gotten so many fistfights over there. I didn't have a clue you put that many people in barracks together for that long and we there was some thumping. When Zanuck comes on we'll talk about some of our.
Speaker 3:I learned how to fist fight over there, I saved I don't think he even knows it, but I saved Daryl Zanuck from a full-blown investigation one night. You remember when they got so tore up over dip? No, oh, yeah, okay. So he got pissed off.
Speaker 2:By leaving bottles around. Yeah, spitting in the garbage can Spitting and throwing.
Speaker 3:You know, everybody opened the door out and threw them out the back door of processing. Well, he got pissed off and I guess out of spite spite, and it may have just been on accident, but I just assumed out of spite but there's a big old chaw, just like baseball, all over the side of the wall and I came in I said oh my god. I said I don't know who that is. But I don't, I don't want to listen to it, I don't want to hear what's coming after this. So I just sprayed it off with the water hose.
Speaker 3:I was like nothing was ever said, but I can only imagine.
Speaker 2:Me and Danny. We went to several so he was always my roommate in every place we went. I don't know. We got two hotel rooms when we went to Desert Snow down in Knoxville, but there that would have been cool. Yeah, that that's a great if, if officers get a chance to go desert snow wanted to there we learned a lot. We went to both of them, went to big truck um in lexington, wasn't it? I went to knoxville in both maybe it was knoxville.
Speaker 4:I tried I tried so hard to get into narcotics stuff.
Speaker 3:But every time I put in for an in-service I got elder sex abuse or something.
Speaker 2:It's just part of it. We got lucky on some stuff. I was on the task force and Danny was canine and we were really close good friends. I'm like, hey, and I got it paid for for you through that task force. He got to go, but that's the only time we didn't have to share hotel rooms, so in there we go over to. Was it Campbellsville?
Speaker 4:Where were we? Campbellsville?
Speaker 1:So we're in Campbellsville.
Speaker 2:Kentucky and Danny comes in, we go. We think we got it made right. This is going to be two weeks easy, easy stuff. That was the hardest school I've ever went to in my life. Yes. So like the first day, we're like they had a movie theater. We went to the movies and we were like man, this is gonna be great. Every night we'll come over here and chill out. And do you know we were. We couldn't drive home at night. It's too far away. Danny's like I'm just getting over the stomach bug. Oh no, he says it's bad too. We rode together over there and by day three or two I'm sick, like green sick. We went and ate at Rally's. They had a Rally's, they had a Druthers over there too. They ruined my whole trip. I'm laying there one night I'm like, oh no, I go and I throw up all over. Then I'm like, oh gosh, it's coming out everywhere I sit down. I'm like, oh no, then I just jump in the shower Come on Sorry.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 4:That's all right.
Speaker 2:So I'm sitting there in the bathtub, I'm pooping in the bathtub. He was so white and green I was puking in the toilet.
Speaker 2:I was like I don't know what to do and uh, I went back into class next day and I'll tell the instructors. I'm like I'm sick. They were like it's gonna be okay because you know he's doing like. We had to go through like, do our practice? They were cramming like teachers, uh, college classes down our throat. We're supposed to learn in two weeks. So I had to present that day. I'm like I don't know what I'm going to do. I was running back to the bathroom and I was green. They were like are you okay? I'm like no man, I'm sick. Sig, you need to go home. I'm like no, I'm not going home. I'll never do this again. If I'm here nowest I've ever been and sat through that just rocking Danny's over. I'm sorry, dude. I'm sorry, smiling, laughing.
Speaker 4:I'm like I tell you every time we get together on training His snoring was unbelievable.
Speaker 2:I had to beat him to sleep.
Speaker 4:I get sick, he gets sick. There's a pooping incident.
Speaker 2:There's something, oh my gosh, that was funny.
Speaker 4:The academy at 730, he'd be laying down covered up trying to go to sleep.
Speaker 2:I tried to sleep like an ostrich or like with my head buried down underneath the mattress, so I didn't hear him.
Speaker 1:I thought now I'll be all right, I'll just take my hearing aid out. I'll be fine.
Speaker 4:But every night he'd try to beat me to sleep.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was hard. At the end we'd be in the academy and then Eric Staller would walk in and never leave.
Speaker 3:You're like Eric, go to bed?
Speaker 2:No, surely not He'd talk about everything in the world.
Speaker 3:I'm like wow, was he still in there going beep, boop, boop, boop beep boop, boop, yep, just as bad.
Speaker 2:It was funny, just as bad, but we had a good time. So we went to DARE, graduated there, that was a great great experience. We did all the desert snow stuff. We had a really fun and blessed 20. You did about 21? 21. I did right at 20.
Speaker 1:Almost 21.
Speaker 2:It 20, you did about 21 21 I did right at 20 almost 21. It was some good times so tell.
Speaker 4:I know you got some other good stories. I got a few. That's here something so I can remember I hadn't been off fto long and I'm. I mean it wasn't long at all and I was on second shift and I hadn't been. You know you don't when you're on fto, you know. Know, sometimes you do a lot, sometimes you don't, and my FTO was spent mostly on day shift, so you didn't do a whole lot other than paperwork, Mostly paperwork 45, stuff like that.
Speaker 4:So I'm thinking it was a second shift call. It was me and Derek House and I don't even remember who all was there, but it was one of my first amped up calls. I can remember it. It was the domestic or something similar to that. Might have been just an assault, but anyways, so we go up. It might have been that one that you was with me with. I can't say his name, but he had to deal with his girlfriend.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that was me and you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it was me and him, so we fought him, and that was the most hilarious fight I'd ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you, Danny spent, I'm going to say, a good solid five minutes trying to get in his house.
Speaker 4:The steel doors.
Speaker 2:We go up there and there's a guy sitting in a wheelchair. Another old guy said boys, it's bad, he's killing her, you better get in there. We're banging on the door, maintenance ain't around. We got to get in there.
Speaker 4:I'm kicking it.
Speaker 2:He kicks. It's hard to get in one of those doors unless you've got a halogen I don't bring the first foot up to help him he's just watching, you know so when it pops open, danny goes back to his position of with hands on the knees yeah, I was like I'm surprised you didn't throw up on that one too.
Speaker 2:I mean, he's, he put a workout in and uh, we, we bust in there and and uh, he wouldn't come out of that what I didn't know, y'all's there she had. He had stabbed her in the chest, in the chest right right above her breast, with a screwdriver oh gosh she's bleeding and she's holding baby. I thought you let us in first my, but my boys over here have a heart attack. He's laying yeah, so we're trying to get him up out of bed. He's laying in bed, yeah.
Speaker 4:So we're trying to get him up out of bed. He's not moving and we go to get him. So we this dude's little I mean I won't say little, but he's thin, you know we're fairly good-sized people we grab him by the feet and jerk him and it was like pulling, I don't know. It was just like a little kid coming out of the bed. He just raised up in this big arc like a windmill arc and landed in the floor. And when he landed in the floor he raised up and Travis did one of his iconic punches, the old Superman punch.
Speaker 4:He just hit him and he goes right back, just laid right back on the floor. So, anyways, we get him up. I think I don't remember if we tussled with him much more after that. So I'm grabbing him by the arms, I'm yanking him out the door, I'm walking him down the steps and Derek Howe says you know, hurry up and get him to the PD, because there are all kinds of people watching. And me, fresh out of the academy, just amped up, I said, yeah, so we don't have to smack him in front of everybody. I got reamed for that. We didn't smack the guy. No, don't get me wrong, we didn't smack him. He might have needed it, but we didn't. But me, all amped up, not thinking of what I'm doing, because we just got done fighting the guy and everybody's like, oh, so that was another time I got in trouble, one of the greatest I've been in trouble, so much it's it's hard to keep track you cussed on the main law yep, I remember that that was hilarious.
Speaker 2:It was next tells yeah, was you talking to John Whitehead, john?
Speaker 4:Whitehead.
Speaker 2:He makes our show. Sometimes I'm telling you he's got to come on.
Speaker 4:We would have Nextel in one hand, Mike in the other hand and driving with our knees and the hands and your arms and your elbows and everything you could do to talk.
Speaker 4:So you're talking, talking, talking, talking, talking, talking, because you try to be as professional as you can yeah, you're trying, you're going in between your next tail and your and your and your radio, so we get a complaint and uh, somebody on the slate lick street, um, possibly moving dope in and out, of, you know, from vehicles, a lot of people coming in and out, so we're waiting to catch a car coming from the residence. So he's on one side of Slate Lake or McWhorter Street down towards the pawn shop, you know towards the parkway and I'm on the other, by the church.
Speaker 4:It used to be a FedEx building there, but it was just a big white building on the right. So I'm sitting there in my car I have in one hand next to on the other. We're talking back and forth, we're talking on the radio, we're calling out cars because we didn't have the laptops in right. We're running tags and everything. And, lo and behold, here comes danny, here comes this car and it's just had every indicator you could think of, just a straight holler, right. You're just thinking, yes, got it. I'm like I'm getting this one, so I yank it and drive.
Speaker 4:And I'm hollering at John on the mic and he's not answering. And I'm hollering at him on the two-way on the next hill he's not answering. And I call out a 47, and I'm thinking I'm on my mic but I'm on the next one. I give out the 47, and nothing happens and I hit it again. I said, hey, john, this one's a big POS. But I didn't say POS. I said this is a good pile of shit car. We need to hurry up and get it. Well, as soon as I said that, I was like and then 818, where you at derrick house night shift, um slightly in the park in mccord street, signal two with me up here and uh, blah, blah, blah. I'm like oh that's always a thing I'm confused
Speaker 4:that's always a fun you're not the only no, but I've done that so many times. It's incredible.
Speaker 2:We had such good times. I had a great career.
Speaker 4:I loved it. You know, did some fun things, not some fun things. Spent a lot of time in supervisor's office.
Speaker 3:I've been there Been there, done that yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got a chance to apologize to some old chiefs the other day for my bad.
Speaker 3:I don't think I gave Derek too hard of a time I did. It was the next one.
Speaker 4:I didn't. But, it happened I did. I think I spent more time with Derek.
Speaker 2:House, I did too, which we had that special relationship because he was our sergeant.
Speaker 3:Yes, Y'all kind of came up together, yeah, he was our guy, so we had that.
Speaker 2:You know, you're our sergeant, you're not chief of police. Yeah, and then you know, I thought I could get away with saying more things than I probably should have, so I'm sorry, derek, that relationship changes not a whole lot, but it has to change a little. Well, you just got to follow chain of command.
Speaker 3:I was going to chain of command.
Speaker 1:I thought I could get away with what I used to, I don't know how many times It'll land you in there.
Speaker 4:You learned as a rookie officer I don't care what people say Until you get five, six years on the road, you're still a rookie. You're still learning every day. I mean, I learned the whole 21 years. I was there, different things, yeah, but I remember, uh, one thing was fun. It wasn't real fun, it was a big learning experience for me.
Speaker 4:Um, we had an officer previously that had gotten some trouble and got. He was no longer with us at that time and everybody was kind of scared on what you can do and what you can't do and how you know when it come to laying hands on people. You know, because in even in the early 2000s it's Laurel County is wasn't like Lexington in Louisville, you know, you still had your use of force continuum and you did follow it. But you left one above and I got a call one day of a TDOT was working. It seems like a lot of things were working with you, a lot of things. I was a magnet. You're a black cloud.
Speaker 4:We get a call of a stolen vehicle from Yadin's Auto Sale, not the one they're at now, the one that used to be past the park way down there. So a guy was working there. I guess he got fired. But he left in a vehicle, one of theirs, and he was drunk. So we're out looking for him. I find him on the parkway.
Speaker 4:I stop him, go through all the field sobriety. You know he's tanked. He's cool as can be. You know he's tanked, he's cool as can be. He's not giving me no issues. Put him in the car and, just like it does with 99% of the people you arrest, once they get in the car, that's when they start running their mouth, that's when they start trying to push your buttons, trying to get you to do things, and you know you can't because they're handcuffed. So we get up to 3rd Street, we're waiting on the light and he's banging his head on the screen. He's kicking, he's screaming, he's spitting, all in the car and I pick up the radio and say I'm going to need some help. And we get to the PD because we took everybody to the PD then, because we booked them. So Travis meets me at the PD. I go to get him out of the car and as soon as he stands up, I mean I have to reach in and grab him, pull him out, and as soon as he stands up, he spits in my face.
Speaker 4:I've never had nobody do that to me.
Speaker 4:It was a big loony and it was horrible and I just froze Because at that split second my brain I'm thinking, oh, what am I going to do Going? Because at that split second my brain I'm thinking, oh, what am I going to do? Going through the options in that split second. I didn't even have that split whole second to think about it. I just kind of looked to my left and here comes Travis with the flying Superman and nails this guy and when I mean nails him, he just doesn't bend over, he folds him in half and he goes in the passenger side of the car, goes in the back seat and smacks up against the driver's side passenger seat of the car. Never seen somebody hit like that.
Speaker 2:It was a palm heel strike, it was not a Well, I mean, he just it was not close to hand.
Speaker 1:He hit him and he went in and I was like he just he's not close to hand.
Speaker 4:he hit him and he went in and I was like he just made me look like a fool, you know. So I yank out the pepper spray and I'm like I'm yelling, he pulls me over, so it's mine. I baptize him. The pepper spray got in trouble for that supervisor yanked me to the side and told me that if I ever did anything like that again, that's going to be me. It's going to be getting hit like that. Yeah, I think it was. It was Hawking, but I think he didn't.
Speaker 3:He deserved it at that point.
Speaker 2:I think it was mad at him for not letting me. Why did Travis take your? That should have been you. I just reacted to.
Speaker 4:He was able to react quicker than.
Speaker 2:I could process everything. I was just like what is he? He's just assaulted Dan. I don't know what this guy's doing. I didn't.
Speaker 3:At that point, was that considered assault? Third no. It was just about there's a lot more you could do once they changed that to assault third yes, it wasn't covered that.
Speaker 2:It was just awful. It was just a different world. I had no idea. People liked to fight like they did.
Speaker 4:No, I didn't. I hadn't really fought with anybody. You know what I mean. You tussle with a few, the guy we chased, we fought a little bit. I wrestled with a few, the guy we chased, we fought a little bit. But other than that most people didn't give me a hard time, the drugs a little bit, but you know they didn't really fight.
Speaker 3:I never had to fight a whole lot either. I mean, we got in fights and then if we wanted to fight we just sent Joey out on his own to a call, and that usually instigated a fight pretty quick, a lot of fights.
Speaker 2:Some people talk to people, some people it just attracts, it gravitates.
Speaker 3:I didn't take things personally so I didn't talk to people like it was a personal attack.
Speaker 4:I'm like your crime's not a personal attack, if you work the road in london and you wanted a fun physical shift. You needed travis dotson on that shift or kenny jones, because when they come out.
Speaker 2:It's like every day's a full moon yeah, I did not and it wasn't anything. I was like I.
Speaker 4:I came out one day and remember the, the day you come out, when you come to the PD with you and your family, oh my, gosh.
Speaker 2:We used to have to come pick up our checks so I'd drive in the minivan. I got my little with me and I'm like my wife and my little and she was like I walk in there and I got flip flops on, I'm going to get my check.
Speaker 3:Y'all have somebody in booking.
Speaker 2:They had somebody, let them smoke outside.
Speaker 4:It was my guy. He was standing there at the window, at the door. I was watching him. Travis pulls up.
Speaker 2:I was like. I know you, you're that man. He started just dog cussing me in front of my wife. I don't't know if he was cussed, I don't remember he was smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 4:He was smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 2:I'm like what is going on? I draw back. I'm going to punch this guy right in the face. I look at my wife. She's like no, she's like what's daddy saying?
Speaker 1:to that guy.
Speaker 2:I was like oh my gosh, it was just weird stuff. I'd show up and be like I'm in flip-flops and just trying to get paid and this guy remembered I mean I policed really hard in my younger days and everybody was scared of that old guy and I'm like pshh. So anyway, that was just weird stuff that happened. I was like man. But one of the funniest gosh, one of the weirdest times, was down at the trailer park that time and we just had. It was just always some kind of shenanigans that was going on the bear, the goat, the bear, yeah the bear, so we've told the bear story, but oh no.
Speaker 2:Not from.
Speaker 4:Danny's perspective, so I probably should have got a Badger Award for this.
Speaker 2:You need a Valor, I should write you. I will give you a bear award.
Speaker 4:Thank you, you're welcome, as like the bear chaser, the bear catcher or whatever the bear whisperer. So we get the bear loose in London and I don't remember where I spotted that. It was somewhere around Jackson Street, First Street, somewhere right in there.
Speaker 2:I was in pursuit of it. I see it running. We were looking for it over towards Big Walmart or somewhere. Well, it had been over at Walmart but it got over on the PD side. I get behind it on First Street and I call it out in pursuit. I'm like, hey, I'm behind the barrier on First Street, we're heading towards PD. Turn it on Jackson Street. Then we got out because it went behind somebody's house.
Speaker 4:It was right there on Jackson Street. I'm on foot looking for the thing and I see it and it takes off running and just that instinct of it's running. I have to chase it like you do a perp. So I chased the bear and I chased the bear.
Speaker 2:Me and Alan were not as fast or whatever. We decided hey, let's not chase this bear, it could eat us.
Speaker 4:I was chasing a bear and he and it was running, but not, I guess I know it wasn't really afraid of me, right, but I was running hard but it wasn't. And about every six or seven minutes it'd stop and look at me and I'd get 10, 15 yards from it, maybe closer sometimes, and I'd stop and I look at it and we'd exchange loving glances for a minute what was you gonna do when you?
Speaker 4:caught it. I don't know, that was not going through my mind. I was just trying to keep eyes on this bear and I could hear him on the radio don't shoot it. Don't shoot it because you can't shoot a bear. So I'm like I can't shoot it, I can't do nothing with it. We didn't have tasers in, okay can you imagine a?
Speaker 4:bear, but it takes off running again. So I take off running again and I follow it down whitley street and there are people outside watching me foot chase a bear and I'm foot chasing a bear. I think it was in the paper me chasing the bear. Yeah, there's there's pictures of us getting a bear. I think it was in the paper me chasing the bear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's, there's pictures of us getting it out of the.
Speaker 4:It was in the tree.
Speaker 2:It climbed up a tree it reared up on somebody, didn't it?
Speaker 4:was it reared up on me twice? Yeah, and then it it ran up a tree but it never would come towards me. I mean, I guess I wasn't afraid. I'm pretty sure, I guess it looked at me like what an idiot.
Speaker 2:Back when we were young men in high school, when the Chicken Festival first started happening, you remember uptown you could wrestle that bear Wrestle the bear?
Speaker 3:Didn't Junior wrestle it once? I think so yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure Danny's like I got this guy Because this was a smaller bear. I'm pretty sure that one was big. I mean it probably went 200.
Speaker 4:Oh, it was 300 pounds. I mean it was a black bear, it was a smaller size, but it was a black bear and I probably in my younger days, if it would have tried me I probably would have and got eat up.
Speaker 1:He'd have been like the.
Speaker 2:Revenant, but it was so funny, he'd come by with his jaw hanging off his eyes.
Speaker 4:It was just so funny, because every time he'd stop, I'd stop, hey bear, I mean, we could just about smell each other. We're so close. Oh, he stunk too, didn't he? And he'd look, he'd just look at me.
Speaker 2:And I'd look at it and I'd be like, hey, we chased this thing so long that the biologist had time to get there and we tranked it From Lake Centern or Frankfurt. Yeah, I mean, they were en route when it first started.
Speaker 1:I mean, we chased this thing.
Speaker 2:Wow, so we did. Stuart Walker did. He climbed up there and he got it. I think we used a fire truck, he got up on the fire truck. He got a good shot and then we put it on a board it was like a board and carried that thing out of there and they loaded it up in a biologist's vehicle and they hauled it off.
Speaker 4:It was awesome.
Speaker 2:It made the paper.
Speaker 3:I don't mean the paper, I mean as it should.
Speaker 2:It smelled awesome. Oh, it stunk that fur. It was horrible. If you ever get a chance to catch a bear.
Speaker 1:I don't recommend it.
Speaker 4:I don't recommend it because there was a couple times I thought I was going to deposit stuff in my pants. Bring me my brown pants I got a little pucker you and somebody on a goat one time.
Speaker 4:That was me and Darryl Kilburn. It was me and Darryl. It was an evening or night shift, I don't remember. It was late because the lights were out and we get a call of a goat. You know, because stock sales in town always getting animals cows, pigs, goats, and it was the old tacky apartments. It was on the second level on that little walkway they got Like a little catwalk. So I go up one side, daryl goes up the other, and our intent was we can get close enough and we'll grab this goat. Yeah, okay, you know goats are.
Speaker 3:I'm not afraid of a goat, no, and they're fairly, I mean docile.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, they like headbutts or something, unless you grab their heads and blow in their face.
Speaker 2:They don't like that. Yeah, I mean they like headbutts or something, but they're not going to.
Speaker 4:They can't eat you and if they bite I'm sure it'll hurt, but it's a goat, yeah. So we're trying to hem this goat in, we're just both slowly creeping up and this goat would run towards me, then turn it and run towards Daryl, then it would run towards and it's like not knowing what to do. Well, all of a sudden, it's like time stopped it, just time stopped and froze.
Speaker 2:He took the blue pill and this was Superman goat or the red pill, or this was like which one? The Matrix.
Speaker 4:Spider-Man goat, I don't know, matrix goat. It took off running towards Daryl, so I'm running trying to catch it and then it just leaps. But it don't leap off, it leaps on the side of the building and it's running sideways.
Speaker 2:It was quite the.
Speaker 4:It was quite the there's a great video of this. I stop and I'm laughing already. And then, as it's running sideways, it takes like four or five steps Unbelievable and it just bounces, just bounces, like it's jumping off that whole thing and I'm like, oh. And then Daryl, out nowhere, quick reflexes, grabs that goat and he's hanging onto it and he's trying to pull it back in. It's like a jumper and I'm cackling, cackling and I have a very obnoxious cackling laugh.
Speaker 3:Oh, it is and we had those body mics.
Speaker 4:We didn't have cameras we had body mics. We had the car cameras caught it all via disc tapes, and you could hear me cackling. I was cackling so hard.
Speaker 2:It was a great catch. I think Darrell should have got an award on that.
Speaker 4:He probably did because it was like something right out of a film. It was hilarious.
Speaker 2:It was a great catch If I talked about getting run over by the golf cart. I haven't on this show.
Speaker 3:No, no, I've not heard that.
Speaker 2:I did get an award. I got a Valor Award for this. This is embarrassing. We're uptown at the when Poison Guy. What's his name? Brett Michaels.
Speaker 3:Brett.
Speaker 2:Michaels is in town. He's playing the Chicken Festival.
Speaker 3:I was working for this one then, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And the band was coming up beside.
Speaker 3:Was this the DUI?
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no. Band's coming up and Brett's in his camper and I'm secured from the crowd to his camper backstage. If you had to pass you had to go through me and Darrell. So the band's coming and the dang golf cart, which is one of those big utility golf carts with the dump bed on the back, big outfit, and it was heavy Found out. So somebody, this nice lady who was operating the thing, they were delivering chicken dinners on those from the big skillet. So the giant skillet's over there, right Right, there's a big line of people over there and the golf cart is parked right where the band's coming in. So somebody's like, hey, can somebody move this golf cart? She jumps on it, puts it in reverse, takes off, gets her foot stuck, she's got it cut all the way.
Speaker 2:So it's doing donuts she gets her foot caught behind the brake and her ankle's pressing on the gas pedal and she's falling into the floor at some point holding on to that steering wheel screaming. So it was like big skillet crowd Brake Michaels RV, the band, everybody, people, whoo, whoo. It keeps going around. You keep hearing her scream. I'm like double-dutching. I start getting ready to jump in. I'm trying to time this. I bet it goes around five, six times and I'm like I've got to stop this. So I jump in. I didn't jump at the right spot, I missed my timing. I catch that. That rear end, that thing hits me. I jump. Luckily I jumped up in the air because I jumped. I was, oh, I'm in the wrong spot. I was trying to jump in it like like jump on top. I got in there too soon and I jumped up and that tailgate area that hits me right in the thighs.
Speaker 2:Spins, you, spins me in the air and I land perfect 10, boom and everybody's there. And then, darryl, he jumps in right and he's got her anchor cranking it and turning the vehicle off and saves us and he was like man, that was the most you know, the band's all coming up to me, man, that one, that was the most you know, the band's all coming up to me, man, that one what the F is that you want to go meet Brent? I said, oh man, I just need a cigarette, I just want to lay
Speaker 2:down and yeah, terrell's like man. That was the bravest thing I've ever seen and gave me an award for that and I said let's not put this one in the paper, let's talk about this one later in the podcast remember the shower curtain? I don't know.
Speaker 4:But so chicken festival golf carts at one year. Dps, give us those rhinos. And we had a rhino. Didn't have a, had the bars but it didn't have a. It had a roof but it didn't have any windows or doors. Chickens Festival it comes pouring the rain. It was awful. It was awful.
Speaker 3:It was cold.
Speaker 4:We're riding around in the golf cart, because when it's raining there's not a whole lot of people out. So you're patrolling the perimeter doing a lot. We're freezing to death. I get an idea let's go to my house, because I just live right down the road. So we go to my house and my bathroom upstairs had a clear shower curtain, so I take it off and I wrap our utility vehicle in a shopping cart so we can stay dry. But it was funny because here you got everybody else doing their thing, riding around their golf carts with their windows, and here we are with a shower curtain it fit in.
Speaker 3:The chicken festival is a wild if you've never been to it.
Speaker 2:You need to go and then you're probably they brought those. They brought those cool bass fishing things in there we won't say what fishermen did it. This guy, this guy would uh, they was great fishermen, we'd work at night shift and they'd go down there and be like so they just display all them this guy be like this is the lure you need and and fish wouldn't buy it because it's like the people that go swimming in the wood and bass pro yeah, we.
Speaker 4:I remember the first couple years of the chickens festival. You know, first couple that I went to. When we get on the golf carts and you know you got the ones with the seats, you know the forward and the backward seats, and then there's so many of us because everybody worked. You wasn't allowed to take vacation during the Chicken Fester, so everybody worked and we only had three golf carts in the two black and white ones and another one, so the black and white ones are loaded down. We'd be standing on the back, holding on the top, leaning over everybody, and every time you'd kids, most of the time, most of the complaints you get. So we're running on them, golf carts going as fast as you can go, trying to make them pop wheelies while the person's driving, and we'd slide in like a SWAT team in those golf carts and just barrel off and take off running. It was hilarious.
Speaker 3:We always where we were on night shift, we always tried to get on the night shift detail of the chicken festival. I hated that man. I hated that shift. We always tried to get on the night shift.
Speaker 2:Detail of the chicken festival.
Speaker 3:I hated which to be honest, I'd rather poop in my hands and clap than work the chicken festival anyway I'm pretty sure that nobody involved in this story works there anymore. I think I can't remember exactly who I was in it, but we were having the chicken festival 500, as we did every time we done that been going on since the first Chicken Festival, Whenever they got those golf carts.
Speaker 2:that's when that started.
Speaker 3:Yep, and then we were on our way. You had to go to Speedway to get them gassed back up. Well, on the way to Speedway we thought, hmm, what would be funny If we pitman over the person in front of us. So we do, and it destroys the back wheel of that golf cart.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's what happened. I remember that Nobody knew what happened, nobody said anything, nope. And now you know.
Speaker 2:You owe $14 for that wheel.
Speaker 3:That hubcap never would stay back on Nope, it wouldn't.
Speaker 2:Those things run great, and I've got to think about that. Those golf carts are probably 30 years old now, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Well, we hot-wired them. Remember the old black truck? We had the old Dodge truck.
Speaker 2:So it was a 4th of July detail, which is another one you couldn't leave town for. No, it is my anniversary.
Speaker 4:They told me and another officer to go get the truck and the trailer and take it somewhere. I don't even know where we were taken oh, to the DPS place there off Slate Lake Street to get a rhino or something like that. So we hooked the trailer you know, I've been mowing for years hauling trailers and, you know, never think nothing about it. So we put the trailer on, so was the other guy, and we're going down 4th Street and it's just bumpy, you know, and all of a sudden we look over our left shoulder and there goes our trailer. We're going down 4th Street and here comes this trailer beating us Down 4th Street. It had the chain, it had one chain, not two chains, it just had one chain on it. And we're going down 4th Street, here comes this trailer and we're like, uh, we get on the radio and we're like, uh, this is going to be bad. We lost the trailer, we sent some units and had to hit a car.
Speaker 3:But how many cars have you hit? A few so. So danny was in the detective's office for most of the time.
Speaker 4:I mean, there's a couple years, I think I had to work with him on the road. I got a better one. Oh do you. Oh, I got. I got a very better one.
Speaker 3:Go with your five years were we off fto, yet I know we were picking up new cars.
Speaker 4:No, you was not off FTO.
Speaker 3:So we were not off FTO. So not only was we not supposed to be driving by ourselves without an FTO with us, but they had sent us to go pick up new cars. Well, Danny, and the other guy that had went to the academy with us, that was his FTO at the time, and he elected to say well, you drive one, I'll drive one back.
Speaker 4:So we went to Don Franklin and it was my car. It was a brand new Charger. Went to Don Franklin me and this officer to get it. They had something with the console or whatever.
Speaker 3:And that's a big deal getting a new car.
Speaker 4:It was a big deal. It was better than Christmas deal, yeah, so we get it and we're. You know, we're driving down the road and I'm looking at all the cool buttons and, like I said, attention is not my strong suit. We've noticed that right. So we're going down south lower road, coming back to the pd and, uh, traffic's kind of heavy. It's pretty heavy. And next thing, you know, I rear-end my FTO, the officer I'm training. He's right in front of me. I mean, I hit him and I hit him hard. It totaled that car, it totaled my car, totaled his car and pushed his car into another vehicle.
Speaker 3:And we kept our spare tires in our trunks and it pushed his spare tire all the way through his back seat. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4:And me being me not thinking about what I say. I get on the radio and I'm hollering for help saying 46th out, 46th out. It's radio and I'm hollering for help saying 46 down, 46 down.
Speaker 1:It's my fault, no trouble, for that one Don't ever admit fault, don't.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So another story, which you wasn't there TDOT wasn't working. This time it was a second shift being a sergeant and another one that I was working with. It was juvenile day. For some odd reason we just dealt with juveniles constantly and I had one arrested and I was waiting for uh orders to take him to breath it. Yeah, this was when we took him over here. Oh, they had the old judicial center over here, so his parents had came up there and they were yelling and screaming at us. It was a big ordeal inside the pd.
Speaker 4:So I finally get tired of listening and everything. I'm done with the paperwork and I say, okay, get up. So I get him up, I put him in the back of my car, I put it in reverse and when I pull out, you know I'm mad, it's heated, so I give it a little bit more gas than I probably should have, but still, I just smashed the rear end of my cruiser into their van. They were pulled up right behind me. They didn't pull in a parking spot, they just pulled into the parkway and stopped and I drilled the side of their car with the juvenile in the car. Oh no, when I said I drilled it, I caved in the whole driver's side of their van and which it was a Crown Vic then, so they didn't really take that much damage, but it messed up my bumper a little bit.
Speaker 2:Buff it out and grab it.
Speaker 4:I didn't even have time to say anything on the radio because everybody heard it and they all come out of the PD. It was like 4, 30, 5 o'clock in the evening, you know second shift. The major was still there. Elijah just came in for something. John rott was the lieutenant at that time. He was there. My supervisor came out and whoever is john whitehead, I'm pretty sure, was working with me and I'm just standing there in my car th working your shift with?
Speaker 4:yeah, he worked with me about every shift. Me and him spent most of my time together with him until he got promoted. And I'm just standing there looking at everybody, the parents, everybody. They're all at the back door, just crammed at that little door Supervisor which is Greg Lewis. He's yelling at me, major's yelling.
Speaker 1:The parents are yelling.
Speaker 3:The kid in the back is yelling and I just go. Huh, Oops.
Speaker 2:I want a dude to ride a man ball on this one.
Speaker 3:I'll see myself out.
Speaker 2:The train's going by.
Speaker 4:Remember, on the back side of the police department there was this big, long black mark about this size I remember that there was a uh are you talking about on the wall?
Speaker 3:on the wall, yeah, I remember the black mark and I remember the indention of a.
Speaker 4:There was a license plate indention yeah, on my canine car I had a license plate.
Speaker 1:I always wondered where that came from. That was me.
Speaker 4:I did that and the black mark was also me. I did that in my 2004 Crown Vic that I hadn't had at all.
Speaker 2:That was brand new too then Because I got a brand new 04.
Speaker 3:The Davies is the reason we couldn't have nice things.
Speaker 2:Hey, listen, I was you remember. I don't know if you remember this, but when you the back way out of the police department, there's a little ramp there. It's elevated.
Speaker 4:It's better than it used to be.
Speaker 2:When I first started, that little ramp was maybe six foot wide. It was awful. You had to go off.
Speaker 1:You could not go off that fast you couldn't see.
Speaker 2:And I remember getting high centered Like wheel up there came off and drug and luckily it was I had you know they were stout enough you could turn my wheel the other way and pop that off there. And I was like, oh no, I've scuffed this, you know, peeled the paint off that. I was scared to death. I didn't report it, they wouldn't care. But I was like so I went to walmart or somewhere, or a like a somewhere, and bought some like black touch-up paint and there doesn't touch that media car, that, uh, that intersection 182, 25.
Speaker 3:we just got those push bumpers on the front of it and I came through there a little hot. You hit that and those chargers would sink. When you hit with the shock All I seen was and sparks. I said I tore this thing off completely. I got lucky it just tore the rubber off of it.
Speaker 2:Danny gets in my cruiser one time running an FOT. He's like, hey, I need a black and white, I need a black and white cruiser. And I just listen. I had a 09.
Speaker 1:Crown Vic Great one, 09 Crown Vic that I drove until 18.
Speaker 2:Because I worked a lot of school. So they was like eh, so I loved it. I didn't want to trade it, but they gave me a new Charger. I just went and got it.
Speaker 2:I mean, I just got it then he's like, hey, I need a. Uh, he's driving pickup trucks, so he's wanting black and white to work, some fot detail, some speed or, you know, write some tickets out of it. I was all right. So I drove his home, he got mine and he can't make his man. You ran it through a ditch or something off the shoulder.
Speaker 4:So they just had repaved 192 and the northbound on-ramp from the 38. So you know, when they just repave it's a little higher. We're used to Crown. We had a Crown Vic just before that and I had a truck. So I get his charger and I'm going to pull. They were lower profiled that and I had a truck, yeah, so I get his charger and I'm going to lower profile, so I'm going to turn onto the interstate and I get a little too close to the edge and I just slide right off yeah, there's a little plastic piece underneath it.
Speaker 4:It was dragging the ground just toward the air dam and off the front of his car I was mad.
Speaker 2:I was like I mean, I was the last guy driving a crown vic at the police department and I, I missed it. I loved it. But I was like man, I want one of these fast chargers, they're so cool. And then I got one and I went to get oil changes and guys like man you know, underneath this got a bunch of broken closet pieces and I was like, just rip them off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, don't feel bad I had to get under mine and cut part of mine off with a knife Because it was just dragging.
Speaker 1:I got tired of it.
Speaker 3:They're way too low the whole time.
Speaker 4:I've never told anybody this story. So when I was a detective I got an exclusive. This is an exclusive. Nobody knows, except my daughter, who was with me.
Speaker 2:And all the people that are the millions that are going to be listening to this podcast Now that you're going to be listening.
Speaker 4:Ha ha. I'm not employed, no more. So I had that nice Dodge truck. It was a 16. Had the step rails on the side, very nice. So I'd been working late and my daughter called me and she's wanting to go to her friends. It's winter, it's cold, roads were somewhat bad, but I was like sure I'll take. I got this truck and ain't no big deal. So I put her in the truck. I'm going down south 25 because her friend lived off some road off south 25 next to corbin. Sorry, that was a big ding anyways. So I'm taking her there and I pass up the road because I didn't know the road and she could she's horrible with directions, she couldn't tell me.
Speaker 4:So just, there's like a church right before the old amblet squad place there on the left or something yeah so, anyways, I go to turn around and it's dark roads are bad, you know and I'm like I can't believe I'm taking you, but I did, so I turn, and when I turn I don't realize how close I am to the ditch. So the whole right side of the truck goes off and hits that and my front wheels off the ditch, my back wheels raised up, the only thing on the road is my driver's side front wheel and I'm teetering. I'm like what did I do? And I heard a thunk so I was like oh, so I had to put four-wheel drive I take her to her friend's house.
Speaker 2:Drive to get out of the ditch.
Speaker 4:I take her to her friend's house and I get out and I go over to the pasture side and that step rail is almost V'd.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it's raised up.
Speaker 4:I'm like I'm going to get fired. I'm going to get fired, oh my God, I'm going to get fired. I just freak out for a minute and then I'm like hold on. I get up. Oh my God, I'm going to get fired. I just freak out for a minute and then I'm like hold on, I get up on it because I'm heavy. I jump up and down on it a couple times. It takes it almost completely perfect, I just drive back home and nobody ever noticed.
Speaker 3:And I'm like, huh, they can take a licking, I'll tell you Sorry, Chief I don't know from experience, but I used to do we used to do a lot of DUI stuff. So we got these new PBTs, the sweet yellow ones. Oh, I did like it. Well, I was real bad for leaving them on my trunk.
Speaker 4:Oh no, how many did you lose they're pretty durable.
Speaker 3:Let's just say let's just say mine had a big on the back of it. It had a big tire mark across the back of it for a while they're tough, it was yeah listen, I was, I won.
Speaker 2:I won one of those, you know, the long ones that you like, you'd hold up, and just, they were detectors. They weren't. They was like oh, I detect it just detects there.
Speaker 3:It doesn't.
Speaker 2:I remember one at a safe schools or a DARE conference we went to one time and and the first thing I did was leave that thing right on the roof. In downtown Louisville I went to a ball game and they were like, ah, it was like a raffle. I was like I want something. I thought it was going to be something cool. I was like I just wanted a hat. I didn't want this. Anyway, I put it on the trunk or on the hood. Somebody in downtown Louisville probably got that detecting alcohol in there.
Speaker 4:We had all kinds of fun.
Speaker 2:Our dare trips. Yeah, we roomed on them together too. We had some good golfing and good times on those things yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 4:Sometimes one time was pretty bad, but we won't talk it was. It was real bad yeah we yeah guys, that's that's the.
Speaker 3:The joy of this job is that you're just. I mean, if it wouldn't, for the guys that you work with, the job would suck for the most part. Oh, it would have been horrible. Yeah, it would have been horrible. It would have been horrible. But we've got all these great stories we get to look back on.
Speaker 4:And there's some that still have a little animosity towards me. We're buddies, don't get me wrong. I mean he still complains about it when we talk about it. Most of my career, once I got off ftl, was on second shift. Yeah, you know, and we all did shift bids back then still same thing and I liked seconds, just because I just, you know it was fun. Yeah, you know, got into stuff. So I got put on night shift for a little while and it was I got. We just had got promoted, or I could say I was given promotion because I was me and another officer. There was only two spots by default. I tested when was three of us that tested? Okay, he backed out. Travis backed out.
Speaker 2:I was on the task force.
Speaker 4:He went to the task force making better money, doing better stuff. So there was left in two spots so they're like well, okay, we'll give it to you all and I think I got it by default.
Speaker 3:You know, was it you and g it was me and g that's what happened to me and cody.
Speaker 4:So, as being the low-ranking supervisor, see, I don't think they ever really planned on promoting me, but they did and uh, so I got that and I got put on that shift with shadowing another sergeant and we'll just say a bunch of things happened. Um, a bunch of stuff happened. We had a lot of fun and got in trouble a whole bunch, and I probably didn't spend a year on night shift. And then they yanked me back, put me on day shift and put gary back on night shift and he, he was mad about that for a long time he got stuck with us though, so I think he was.
Speaker 2:He was no that was back when he got stuck. Oh, was it me. Oh yeah he was he was pretty mad. This was early because I came off that task force and got. You know I promoted me and travis hurley got promoted same time later because I remember us talking about I was like I don't think he wanted to get promoted there for a while he didn't um because he got on day shift and and that was pushing him back to second shift yeah, senior patrolman day, it's kind of a bittersweet
Speaker 3:thing to get promoted because you go back to we were me and derek were talking about this today the greatest position at a police department is senior patrolman.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I disagreed a little bit. I'm like the third sergeant on the shift working 6P to 2A, that lost ball and had high weeds, that is better.
Speaker 3:And I did that for a couple years and I would just be like, oh man, we did have some odd years where we were just like supervisor, heavy on ships for whatever reason.
Speaker 2:It just one of them. Deals were like somebody go down on the task force and come off of it, just things like that. What happened? Yeah, but yeah, there's just no. You had no home, so you're just like hey, guys, I'm here and be an evening shift, your second shift.
Speaker 4:I always got stuck with the new people, you know, because nobody wants second shift. No, they either want day shift or night shift. Yeah, and the new guys most year, if your senior guys couldn't get day shift, they took night shift and not many of them took second shift. So I always got stuck with the new guys and I think that's one reason I got in trouble so often.
Speaker 2:No, it was fun. It was fun, though the people that wanted second shift would really, I think TH really liked it. He did, he did. You and him had a good time. We had a lot of fun.
Speaker 4:I remember it was snowing one day and it was me and a couple other patrolmen. I won't say their names, I guess I can, it don't matter. But we're snowball fighting like usual, Like you know, goofing off snowball fighting. Well, I get them. I get them really good.
Speaker 4:They don't realize that I also put pepper spray under their handles and their door handles and their air dam in their car, god. So I throw snowballs at them and they chase me into the PD. We hang out in the PD a minute and then they're doing something. Well, I just leave and they don't realize that I left because they had like, on the back of their car they had like seven snowballs waiting for me. Yeah, so I go knock them off real quick and I get in the car and I haul off and I'm going home.
Speaker 4:It's right at going home time, because I wasn't one to just kind of hang around. My wife always got mad at me. Yes, that's true, you did get mad at me for hanging around. So I went straight home and here they come, just modocking down the road. They get out like two houses down. They think I don't see them, but I see them the whole time. I get out of my cruiser, I'm walking and I get right to the door and here they come running with snowballs in their hand. I opened the door and my male boxer at that time I had two, I had a male and a female he was really protective. He wouldn't hurt a thing, he couldn't hurt a thing, couldn't hurt nothing. He didn't have hardly teeth in his head, he took out running after them as they're running down the road.
Speaker 1:They flip out, throw the snowballs and run back to their cars.
Speaker 4:So much fun, oh man.
Speaker 2:Good old days it is. Yeah, I got some stories. I want to do a special. It's coming up on TH's. He's been gone almost three years now. There's some stories we had on I love that old bear we need to do a good one. I miss him.
Speaker 4:Yes, one of my best friends.
Speaker 3:It would be cool if we could get do that and then get supporting heroes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3:Somebody come down kind of talk to yeah we're going to try Get the word out with them, because they were awesome on all of that.
Speaker 4:I remember when he got his first Jeep. Every time he'd get ready to go somewhere he'd call me Danny. Can you come help me take the top off? Can? You come help me put the top on or playing Call of Duty. When he first got his Xbox and we'd all get online and play Call of Duty, he'd call me hey, how do you do this? How do you do?
Speaker 2:this. How do you do that? Oh man, he was he was so fun.
Speaker 2:We. We answered, you know, we. I were some. You know if I didn't work night shift, I was on the second shift, a lot like like that 6p to 2a, but we're not some reason. And he worked some third shift with me.
Speaker 2:I remember we it was Chicken Festival time and we had this guy. He was rowdy, he would not come out of his house. He wasn't even in his house, he just wouldn't leave. And we was like man Travis, how are we going to get him out of here? I don't know if we've got enough to arrest him. We weren't sure what to do. I was like he's going to have to fight. I don't know what's going to happen If we lay hands. He's going to fight. I reached up.
Speaker 2:All of a sudden this guy starts throwing down. He's like wow, resting, we get outside. He starts looking. He's like did I see what? I thought I seen. I said what did you see, buddy? He said you flipped him right in the nose. I don't know what you're talking about. Oh man, he got a kick out of that. I said man, I didn't know what to do. And he said what made you think of that? And I was like I got a twisted mind, I don't know, I don't know. Oh man, those people were so thankful to get that drunk out of there. He tore up their house and we was like we had enough, yeah, but we just I mean, that guy was going to fight.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I was just like hmm, Wait until you get Mike Holiday on here. I asked him. You can get Alan Harris or Greg Hill. They've got some stories for Travis. That's hilarious.
Speaker 2:We'll do a TH special.
Speaker 4:Derek has a bunch we need to honor him.
Speaker 2:I miss him every day. It's been almost three years. I know that he would get a kick out of when we was pallbearers. We about dropped him.
Speaker 1:It's funny.
Speaker 3:I know he's looking down from the half and laughing at us. It's funny. Now, it wasn't at the time. But we were standing at attention. I remember.
Speaker 2:I saw Gromit being tried.
Speaker 3:Well, the look in Big C's eyes was when he started losing grip. It was just a look of sheer terror, nothing we could do.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know he got a kick out of that. He had the greatest laugh of all time. I mean, yours was annoying, his was beautiful, his was good, mine was just annoying. He had that deep, deep.
Speaker 4:I miss him, and you never wanted him to get a hold of you.
Speaker 3:No, I'm sorry, big bear paws.
Speaker 2:I didn't get you. Get a hold of you no I'm sorry, big bear paws geez. Well, that's, uh, let's, we'll do another one sometime, danny, we'll cut it.
Speaker 3:We'll cut this one off. Yeah, we'll uh, we'll end it right here. Um, got a few things coming up. We've got, uh, gonna have kind of get out of police land for a little while. We've got, uh, a dispatcher coming up and we've got a fireman coming up. I mean I know everybody's excited about firemen, yeah.
Speaker 2:Everybody Heroes.
Speaker 3:Hose jockeys.
Speaker 4:I did that for a minute.
Speaker 3:Oh Lord. Technically Patrick was our first fireman, but I think his only qualifications is he walked into a fire department one time.
Speaker 2:He sat down at a meeting.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he sat down.
Speaker 4:he was on a roster for I've done it for a little while he's probably on other lists, like a month. That was long enough for me, that's good, yeah, but uh.
Speaker 3:But yeah, danny, we've enjoyed it, thanks for coming out we'll uh see, and that's the thing we'll think, we'll think of and stuff. Oh, I'm still going through the stories. Just write them down.
Speaker 2:It's crazy how these little talks it jogs your memory. Sometimes You're like holy cow. I thought doing this to try to make a million dollars that'd be nice to get monetized.
Speaker 1:But I'm doing this because I'm not going to forget it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just good stuff and I want people to remember it someday.
Speaker 3:And you guys out there listening. I hope you all are enjoying what we're putting out so far. We've got an email address, instagram. We've got our main webpage. It's a little convoluted to navigate, but if you want to DM us on Instagram to navigate. If you want to DM us on Instagram, our email address is jujpod at gmailcom. Right now, that's J-O-O-J-P-O-D.
Speaker 2:I didn't know we had one such thing. This guy's the technical guy. I just show up late.
Speaker 3:T-dots are Vanna White, me too. T-dots are Vanna White about it. But yeah, hit, hit us up, send us some, uh, send us some feedback, let us know what you think. You got some stories, yeah if you want us to tell a story or something that you don't want, to, come on and tell yourself, or something that you know, we'll read them.
Speaker 4:Change the names if you get, it would be cool to get other agencies involved. Yeah, we're going to.
Speaker 3:So there's a guy Doug has a buddy that is a retired state trooper from Louisiana. Oh, that would be cool. That's going to come on. We're going to have to do him remote, so I've got to figure out the way to do that.
Speaker 2:I've got a buddy.
Speaker 3:This equipment can do it, but I don't know, I've got a buddy from Michigan State Police that's ready to come on. We're going to try and branch out some get you guys, some other stuff other than just our local guys. Stay tuned with us.
Speaker 1:Check us out on the police sign. I did the police sign.